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CO: Ban Damage: CO And now, the roofs begin tumbling down
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | July 26, 2006 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 07/31/2006 5:15:29 AM PDT by SheLion

The issue is no longer just about smoking.

Passing a state law outlawing smoking in most public places was, by this comparison, the easiest thing to do.

The law was not required to address the inevitable hardships such a bill was destined to inflict.

There was clapping and backslapping on the floor of the state Senate the afternoon it passed there. But none of that really matters now, when the issue is one of how it impacts people's lives.

They are men and women who once ran tiny, yet prosperous, packed-to- the-kegs establishments, who now tend mostly empty bars. The looks on their faces would be no different had their roofs actually fallen in.

They call me. What am I supposed to do, I ask? Write about it, they respond.

What has happened is a statewide tragedy, sponsored by the government. And where are all of the people, they all want to know, that the government promised would flock to their now-smoke-free bars?

The loudest of them, of course, has been Jim VonFeldt, owner of the venerable Billy's Inn at 44th Avenue and Lowell Boulevard.

In the weeks between the governor's signing of the bill and July 1, when the law went into effect, he rallied a relatively small band of tavern owners to challenge the law in court.

A judge denied their sought-after injunction. The litigation itself remains pending in the courts.

Jim VonFeldt has just returned to Billy's from his banker when he calls me, yet again.

He has owned the place for 21 years; his wife's family owned it for nearly 20 years before that. His two grown children are his only employees.

And now, he wants to talk.

It is just after 1 p.m. when I walk into the joint. The only sound emanates from a television in the corner, droning a detective show. Only bearded, vacant-eyed Jay, who has occupied the same far-corner barstool for decades, inhabits the place.

Jim VonFeldt walks up from the back, carrying a large stack of documents. He begins reading from them.

Total business is off 35.14 percent since July 1, he begins. Liquor sales, jukebox, cigarette, vending and Lotto scratch-off machine receipts have declined in 23 short days by at least half.

"That video golf game used to average $75 to $100 a week. The last two weeks, the vendor and I split the 6 bucks that were in it," Jim VonFeldt says.

"Where are all these people the government told me would make my life better? My most loyal customers come, but maybe they have a drink. Most have just stopped coming altogether."

As leader of the Coalition for Equal Rights, the tavern owners' group, he gets calls every day, he says. Three come in as we chat, including one from the lawyer representing the group.

"This is simply crippling," he moans into the phone to the lawyer. Hanging up, he beseeches me to look at the blue folder in front of him. It is filled with his complete financial records, the same ones he has just handed his banker at Chase to leverage his house to the hilt in order to pay his bills. I decline.

So he hands me his state workers compensation bill.

"I don't have the money. All of my cash flow has been depleted," Jim VonFeldt said. "And if I don't have workers comp, I can be fined up to $17,000. I don't know what I am going to do."

To emphasize his point, he walks me to the automatic teller machine I had used a month before.

A large "out of order" sign now lies across the keyboard.

"I don't have enough $20 bills to put in it," he says.

He reads from a stack of notes taken during myriad recent conversations with Coalition members, of patrons saying they are going outside for a smoke but never come back, of fights the bartenders inside can no longer break up, of thieves cleaning out cash registers when bartenders themselves sneak out for a drag or two.

Many owners, Jim VonFeldt says, are doing what he did two days ago: writing Bill Owens and begging for an exemption to the law.

"The ban has decimated my business," his letter to the governor begins. "I am one or two weeks away from bankruptcy.

"If I lose this, so goes my whole family. Please grant this exemption for my family."

The last sentence he has typed in large bold letters.

While he waits to hear back from the governor, he fumes.

"We've got young men now fighting all over the world for what they tell us is for democracy and freedom," Jim VonFeldt, 60, said.

"Yet our own government is taking away my freedom to operate my business right here at home. It's just not right."

He sighs.

"At a time when I should be planning for retirement and the good things in life, the only thing I'm planning is how to survive. If I fail - and this worries me the most - I fail my children.

"I don't know what I am going to do."


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To: Just another Joe
My agenda is that smokers should respect the person and property of others by keeping their smoke, their ashes, and their butts to themselves. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them.
181 posted on 07/31/2006 11:12:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: SheLion

All I can do is shake my head at that, chica.

Folks just don't see the big picture. All because they can't stand The Smell.

Sheesh.


182 posted on 07/31/2006 11:13:04 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: CSM

I've been considering it as a tagline too. There's a conservative city councilman named Michael Berry here in Houston that has a radio talk show, and he made that statement. They've been running it as an ad for his program.


183 posted on 07/31/2006 11:15:03 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: metesky
These guys? I never heard what they had to say before you mentioned them

Here is an extract

Tobacco researchers talk about the gap between what we know and what we do. What we know is that most smokers want to quit, most see a doctor at least once a year, and most doctors want to help them quit. Moreover, we know that the nation could double its current national annual rate of quitting if doctors routinely offered brief advice, counseling, and effective pharmacotherapy (such as the nicotine patch or Zyban) that the Guideline recommends. Unfortunately, only 50–60 percent of smokers report getting any advice on quitting from their physicians, and fewer than 25 percent report any further counseling or drug-based therapy. Low-income and minority smokers are the least likely to get this help.

Granted, the gap between what we know and what we do has grown smaller. The number of quitters who currently make use of effective treatments is somewhere between 20 and 30 percent, which is twice as high as it was a decade ago.6 There are plenty of reasons to explain why this gap has not shrunk further:


184 posted on 07/31/2006 11:18:59 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: metesky

I can't wait for the RWJF to get its squadron of black helicopters with smoke detectors.


185 posted on 07/31/2006 11:19:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: SheLion
I just finished with the next set of cards. This time, I'm going to print small and brief statements on the backs of them:

These are screenshots of the print preview of the WORD template. The left is the front pic, and the right is the rear side. If I run out of ideas, I might start a bloggerthread asking for your ping list once again to get helpful contributions to go on the back sides.

186 posted on 07/31/2006 11:30:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Moonman62
Smoking Nazis should respect private property rights.

Period.

Because they don't, they petition Big Nanny Government to do their bidding.

Because of their narcissistic view of life, they've ruined civility and crippled and corrupted the free market.

In a society that hadn't been dangerously infantilized, they'd rightly be objects of mockery and derision.

That they've gained even a modicum of influence is testimony to the squishiness that's infested what was formerly an adult world.

187 posted on 07/31/2006 11:32:26 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: ichabod1

I used a modification of an Ann Coulter line from her book, "Treason," on the back of one of my cards (pictured above):
"If liberals went after terrorists with the zeal that they went after smokers, 9-11 would never have happened."


188 posted on 07/31/2006 11:32:40 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Moonman62

"I enjoy seeing the tide turning against the smokers who have had no respect for other people's person and property."

First and foremost, it is the anti-smoker that has shown no respect for for other people's property. If the property owner allows smoking, and people smoke, then the non smoker is free to leave. If the owner allows smoking, then a smoker is NOT showing disrespect for his property by smoking.

That is your problem, you can't seem to even fathom that someone else might prefer to cater to the whims of those you enjoy poking fun at. That is the epitomy of selfishness.


189 posted on 07/31/2006 11:36:02 AM PDT by CSM ("The fatter we get as a country the more concerned we get about smoking" - ichabod1)
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To: Madame Dufarge
LOL! I remember a funny post at Craig's List that read something like this:
I'd like to beat the sh*t out of a smoker when he blows his poison near me. He probably wouldn't be able to fight back because smokers are so weak and get winded so easily."
These jackasses are SOOOO studly tough and can take on the world because they're healthy and all that, yet run away like little girls when they come across unpleasent odors?

(No offense to little girls)

190 posted on 07/31/2006 11:37:08 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Moonman62
Your agenda is one of a petty little dictator, or a socialist. Let's try using your logic with other issues.

Drivers don't buckle seat belts. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them.

Parents should teach their kids what we believe. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them.

Gun owners should use their weapons safely. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them.

Parents should feed their children healthy food. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them.

Drivers haven't been conserving gas. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them.

And on and on it goes. Dictatorial elitists want everyone to be forced to submit to the approved behavior. If they refuse to acquiesce to threats, the dictator will use the force of government. Oh, and your comment about respecting the person and property is laughable. Where is the business owner's right to his property. You remind of the liberals crying about freedom of speech. They want it for themselves, but not for anyone else.

191 posted on 07/31/2006 11:37:20 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Moonman62

"My agenda is that smokers should respect the person and property of others by keeping their smoke, their ashes, and their butts to themselves. They haven't done that so now it's being done for them."

Correction: The owners allowed smoking on their private property, the anti smokers showed no respect to that decision and have now used the force of government to remove that choice from the property owner. It is the anti-smoker that has disrespected other people's property.

Just because you don't like the choice the owner made, doesn't mean that it is of utmost respect to use government force to ensure the owner can no longer make that choice.


192 posted on 07/31/2006 11:39:40 AM PDT by CSM ("The fatter we get as a country the more concerned we get about smoking" - ichabod1)
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To: RandallFlagg
These jackasses are SOOOO studly tough and can take on the world because they're healthy and all that, yet run away like little girls when they come across unpleasent odors?

Why, I bet they'd even take a mighty swing at a smoker with their purses, given enough provocation. ;-)

193 posted on 07/31/2006 11:42:20 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: HamiltonJay
Parse that reply, I didn't say what you stated was wrong per say, I said it was asinine because it's stalinist.

Duly elected representatives violate the Constitution and/or pass crappy laws on a daily basis. It doesn't make it right even if it's "factually" correct.

By your logic, people should have "adapted" to Jim Crow laws at their passage rather than ranting and getting in a fuss about them...

While I'll grant the point is moot now, it'll would be sweet justice if many of the idiots who voted for it in their legislature get back to "adapting" in the real job market after the next election. Wouldn't mind seeing an equal protection clause arguement shut it down either (though that might be weak because the tribes are quasi sovereign...)

194 posted on 07/31/2006 11:46:17 AM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: HamiltonJay

You are sad.


195 posted on 07/31/2006 12:22:01 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Moonman62
My agenda is that smokers should respect the person and property of others by keeping their smoke, their ashes, and their butts to themselves.

Even if the property owner/business owner decides to allow smoking on/in their property/business.

Your OTHER agenda is showing. again.

196 posted on 07/31/2006 1:03:32 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SheLion

I am sad because I can call a spade a spade? Interesting viewpoint... I'll promptly file it in the round file.


197 posted on 07/31/2006 1:42:37 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Big Mack

Think what you will Mack, I am not the least bit interested in your welfare, just mine. You are a big boy and you will have to look after yourself.


198 posted on 07/31/2006 1:47:19 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Raycpa

Funny you mention that. I recently attended an outdoor event. It was hot and people sat under a tent to watch a skit. A smoker sat down front and the wind direction caused his smoke to travel across one half of the seats. I gave up my seat and moved to the other side

Mission accomplished. He got rid of the self righteous windbag that wouldn't shut up.

199 posted on 07/31/2006 2:27:39 PM PDT by Bogey
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To: ichabod1
There's just something about smoking and drinking. They go together like peanut butter and jelly for a lot of people.

True; when I was smoking a beer automatically brought out the pack of Camels. The way I finally knew I'd kicked the addiction was when I could have a beer with no desire to light up. It took over a year.

200 posted on 07/31/2006 2:27:45 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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