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Science Fiction has become a poisoned well . .
7-27-06 | Marc Costanzo

Posted on 07/27/2006 6:49:43 PM PDT by marc costanzo

The essay below was originally written in the early Spring of 2001:

With the passing away of LEXX ends an intriguing albeit tawdry experiment in Sci-fantasy. One that breaks with conventions, or should I say cliches of TV sci-fi of the 90's . The politically correct pabulum, the multicultural indoctrination, the BladeRunner motifs, and not the least; the steroid mutated superbabes that can punch the lights out of men, but never get punched back in return !?

How about creating a new sci-fi anthology with none of the puerile baggage of Rod Serling, Rockne Obannon, Michael J. Stracinsky, etc .. It is time to end their reign of un-American cynicism and fatalism !


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: canada; entertainment; fiction; firefly; heinlein; lexx; media; sciencefiction; scifi; serenity; tv; vanity
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To: sergeantdave

One more thing - what are the titles of good science fiction movies made in the past five years? I've seen all the classics and I'm looking for DVDs to watch on Satuday nights.<<

What good Sci-Fi movies ?

There are none .

Last good movie of science fiction merit was DARK CITY,
which preceded MATRIX by a year !
DARK CITY was a superior fillm all around ! !


161 posted on 07/27/2006 8:30:41 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: rumrunner

Start with Eric Flint's 1632 series. Weber's Harrington is hard to beat, too. Drake's later works -- especially his Cinnibar series with O'Leary is a lot less grim than his early works. I like it.

Ringo writes war-porn for Ranger/SEAL/Special Forces types. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I have been enjoying his "Ghost/Kildar" series.


162 posted on 07/27/2006 8:30:44 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: sionnsar
I have no idea what "LEXX" is, but my perception (and I admit to having moved to the periphery over the past few decades) is that Science Fiction in a written medium is alive and well.

This is also my perception and I think scifi lends itself better to print than film. I'm even trying to write my own scifi novel. This is not going as well as I'd like but is going.
163 posted on 07/27/2006 8:31:34 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: marc costanzo

Maybe they should make a show based on Heinlein's Starship Troopers, instead of slapping the name on a bad Orkin Man nightmare.


164 posted on 07/27/2006 8:33:47 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Nothing smells like security like gun smoke.")
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To: marc costanzo

Blah! I like Blade Runner and just about every bleak insane future P.K. Dick cooked up. Looking forward to seeing them ruin "A Scanner Darkly".


165 posted on 07/27/2006 8:35:36 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: JamesP81

This is also my perception and I think scifi lends itself better to print than film. I'm even trying to write my own scifi novel. This is not going as well as I'd like but is going.
<<

I am into shrt stories myself, I even wrote a very short one many years ago when I first entered college .

It was inspired by some abandoned creature dwellings described in Clarke's EXILE OF THE EONS and an enlarged electron-microscope photograph of a Dust Mite,
now are those creatures alien !


166 posted on 07/27/2006 8:36:55 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: freedumb2003
REAL science fiction affecionados NEVER use the term "sci fi."

Ah, another member of the Secret Fellowship.

167 posted on 07/27/2006 8:40:01 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: marc costanzo

bump 4 later


168 posted on 07/27/2006 8:40:18 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: rumrunner
As a kid (20 years ago), I read the usual, Asimov, Heinlein, etc. I recently meandered through the bookstore's scifi section, and did not have a clue as to which books were worth reading.

Sounds like me. Heinlein, Herbert, Niven and Pournelle were my favs.

I had the misfortune of selecting Darwin's Children by Greg Bear. I stopped reading after about the third reference to the Evil Republicans' oppression of innocent Americans. I'll light my next campfire with the pages of that one.

169 posted on 07/27/2006 8:41:08 PM PDT by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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To: Sensei Ern

>>Maybe they should make a show based on Heinlein's Starship Troopers, instead of slapping the name on a bad Orkin Man nightmare<<

They have done that already, ROUGHNECK: StarShip Troopers Chronicles, came out in 1999 - -

Much closer to the spirit of the book than that stupid movie by Ed Neumier and Paul Verhoeven


170 posted on 07/27/2006 8:43:14 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: PzLdr
Hammer's Slammers

A great concept for a story, but to be honest, I find Drake's writing to be so bad that it grinds on the nerves. Seriously. I am constantly having to re-read pages in his books just to figure out what's going on.
171 posted on 07/27/2006 8:43:16 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: KevinDavis

Put me on for now


172 posted on 07/27/2006 8:46:11 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: marc costanzo
Much closer to the spirit of the book than that stupid movie by Ed Neumier and Paul Verhoeven

Oh, I know. They pissed all over Heinlein's great book with that sad excuse of a movie. It bore only a passing resemblance to the book. A very passing resemblance. In fact, the movie was about as well connected with the book as democrats are with reality.
173 posted on 07/27/2006 8:46:33 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: marc costanzo
I am into shrt stories myself, I even wrote a very short one many years ago when I first entered college .

Maybe I've bitten off more than I can chew. I've got about four ideas for what I think would make good science fiction novels, and I'm actively working on one and semi-actively working another one. My intent isn't short stories; I want my stuff sitting on the rack at Barnes and Noble.

Oh well. I guess if you want to win big you have to dream big.
174 posted on 07/27/2006 8:48:44 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: JamesP81

I used to be a tanker. So Hammer's Slammers [which he based on the 11th ACR] resonated with me. Always liked the stories. I would imagine Honor Harrington would have a better shot at a series. More PC. The uberwarrior/military genius is a woman.


175 posted on 07/27/2006 8:49:44 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: sionnsar

>>"When Worlds Collide" is there, proudly. (Did they ever do "After Worlds Collide" by Wylie & Co?) <<

Sadly no, and they never will .
AFTER WROLD'S COLLIDE is to religous, to Biblical sounding,
In the novel, those who were selected to go aboard were chosen by Eugenics - - a definite no no in todays PC tight assed world !


176 posted on 07/27/2006 8:50:51 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: Bernard Marx
Ah, another member of the Secret Fellowship.

More like Old School -- Asimov, Campbell, Heinlein, Bradbury, Ellison (new Old School), Farmer.

177 posted on 07/27/2006 8:53:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: Chairman Fred

I preferred Anderson's fantasy to his Sci-fi.


178 posted on 07/27/2006 8:55:46 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: JamesP81

The best idea for a Science Fiction novel is not horror nor social commentary,
but a good detective story like one written by Chrighton or Arthur Conan Doyle or Edgar Allan Poe

Use the Scientific Method to solve a mystery !


179 posted on 07/27/2006 8:55:55 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Strength & Honor)
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To: Dr Stormfist
Oh, the Skiffy channel stretches in to fantasy and horror. Am I happy about them "pushing the envelope"?
No, but a at least it that genre can be tolerated.

However, I thought they went off their rocker with ECW, and it's not like Law & Order isn't on half
a dozen other channels any given night, any day of the week.

Spare me the The Hoff's Knight Rider. And any number of other bad shows. The B shows that know they're
"B" and treat themselves as such are far more entertaining than Ghost Hunters, and other unwatched and
forgotten shows.

Even Dr. Who is annoyingly PC.

180 posted on 07/27/2006 8:57:36 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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