[freepatriot32]

play nice and keep it clean people

[freepatriot32]

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[edcoil]

Are they going to share the drugs to everyone before we read it?

[HaveHadEnough]

Well, the Preamble sounds good.

[mysterio]

I'm very libertarian, but this open borders crap is a recipe for poverty. However, I'm not voting for any socialists.

[Antoninus]

Wow, my eyes are bleeding.

What about my suggestion for random drug testing of all Liberal-tarian party candidates? I think that needs to be part of the platform.

[Moose4]

This is from the "gun rights" section:

Upholding the Second Amendment through the repeal of all gun control legislation that prevents law abiding citizens from the means of self-protection, as well as all restrictions on other personal weapons such as pepper spray, knives and swords, staves and clubs, etc. Laws that ban the private use and ownership of primarily offensive weapons such as bombs, deadly chemical weapons and military devices such as missile launchers and nuclear weapons. The revocation of arms rights from those who are convicted of commission or the involvement with the commission of violent crimes.

You've got some incomplete sentences in there, which I underlined. So as you can see, your position on those two particular clauses is not known--do you support them, or oppose them? Re-read the document, get some other people to do it (not just us, give it to friends in hardcopy, which is a lot easier to edit) and let them edit it for grammar and spelling.

I glanced at the foreign policy section, and it seems a little more realistic than current big-L Libertarian policy.

Good luck.

}:-)4

[ErnBatavia]

play nice and keep it clean people

You know better than to expect that...

[beltfed308]

There are many good things here. Even the Republican Pary has its faults. I would really like to see a pro-freedom party come to power over the political hacks that get too comfortable. When was the last time a law got repealed as opposed to more being added?

[GovernmentShrinker]

This party is a joke. They do not call for an end to government handout programs and as usual put a lot of emphasis on freedom to use harmful recreational drugs. End ALL welfare, ALL taxpayer-funded medical care, and ALL tax-payer-funded substance abuse treatment programs, and revise the laws across the land to hold people fully responsible for any act they commit while under the influence of self-administered drugs (including alcohol), and THEN we can talk about ending the "war on drugs".

[Billthedrill]

Well, it has been 15 posts and nobody's used the words "losertarian" or "dopertarian" yet. That's something.

I like the drugs part but the economics section implies that you have to pay for them yourself...

[MineralMan]

Where's the section on open source software? Software wants to be free! Right?

Without that, the LP will lose all the LINUX consultants, and there would be no party at all.

[A CA Guy]

So what is different?

Did they change any of their positions of bestiality, homosexuality and other vices?

[WhiteGuy]

Bump for later reading.

[robertpaulsen]

The got rid of the "Families and Children" plank -- the one that said, "However, children always have the right to establish their maturity by assuming administration and protection of their own rights, ending dependency upon their parents or other guardians, and assuming all responsibilities of adulthood."

They've tightened up on immigration, that's for sure. The old plank was,

"We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally."

[kidd]

"Recognizing that abortion is a very sensitive issue, and people can hold good-faith views on both sides, we therefore take no official position concerning to what extent abortion should be regulated by law and leave the question to each of its members and candidates – and their consciences – to determine their own positions"

This would change the Libertarian platform from being wobbly on abortion to being firmly on the fence on abortion.

In essence this is a pro-abortion position - if this platform recognized that abortion is murder then it would be firmly against abortion on the basis that there is extreme harm to another human...without consequences to the aggressor. This is a central theme to libertarianism.

[NCSteve]

Very nice.

Regardless of the juvenile taunting and derision from the pubbie lemmings, this is a great effort. If the LP ever adopts something like this, I might have to jump on board.

[ctdonath2]

Demote point (C) to much later to defuse the obvious reactions. Better still, rephrase the whole point to focus on core principles, not hot-button codewords.

[pissant]

Hey, the liberatarians might get 3/4% of the popular vote this time round.

[tpaine]

Very well done.

My only initial problem with it is a lack of a firm stated commitment, - in the preamble, - to our US Constitutions principles..

[Tired of Taxes]

Suggestions:

(1) "Sexual rights" isn't in the Constitution. "Consensual activity between adults" should be listed under the "privacy issues" section. As is, it just sounds very iffy on the issue of traditional marriage. Not sure where this version of the LP platform stands on that issue. Do they want to drop marriage from the legal lexicon altogether? Or do they want to alter the definition of marriage to include anything goes?

(2) Under "Education", I don't see what I thought was the LP's position - to eliminate state-run public schooling altogether and allow the free market to take over. As is, it sounds like they favor some kind of school voucher system.