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Fellow FReepers- I Love You, But You're Often Delusional (Polls, Hillary, MSM, Terrorism)(VANITY)
Self | 6/5/06 | Self

Posted on 06/05/2006 5:29:40 PM PDT by NYC Republican

As the title says, I find FR to have some of the most informed, creative, wonderful people I've ever come across in cyberspace. I find you helpful, talented, knowledgable, and immensly involved.

Having said that, I find it disturbing that we're wrong about so many things- in some cases WAY wrong.

Case in point, the constant harpings that the MSM is nearling extinction... It's NOT, in fact, the lib media has become even more emboldened and committed to defeating the conservative agenda, now that FOX and Talk Radio are so popular. Most folks still get their news from 10 second sound-bites, or newspaper headlines, and the libs surely control that. The lib media influence is no-where near extinction, one could argue that it's just as influential as ever.

Another thing that surprises me are rumors of captures of senior Al-Qaeda operatives, including OBL and Zarqawi... A thread gets started and FReepers jump on the bandwagon "high-fiving" each other.

Thinking that Clinton can't be elected. She already starts with a base of over 40%, and nearly every state that Kerry won. It wouldn't take a whole lot to tip the scales her way.

Polls- how often are good polls touted from the roof-tops, and bad polls are totally discounted. Often some of you cherry-pick the slivers of poll data that you like, to say, aha, the media is biased. Folks, an oversampling of even 10% towards the Dems only moves poll numbers about 4%... So, whether Bush is at 34% or 38%, it's still in the toilet...

I can go on and on... My point is not to be negative, rather, it's to ask FReepers to open our eyes, and have a more realistic viewpoint around us.

Oh yeah, also, I'm pleading, PLEASE don't hijack every thread into an anti-illegal immigration thread (now that I said that, the first post will be just that)...


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Thoughts? Am I the one who's delusional here?
1 posted on 06/05/2006 5:29:42 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican; HitmanLV

I should add, those espousing rounding up all of the illegals and deporting them, NEVER gonna happen. Never.


2 posted on 06/05/2006 5:30:38 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: NYC Republican
Am I the one who's delusional here?

No.

3 posted on 06/05/2006 5:31:55 PM PDT by Bahbah (The Dream Act...the latest nightmare to be brought to you by the US Senate)
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To: NYC Republican
No, you're definitely NOT delusional/loony/coo-coo or antsy.

You're keeping an open mind & you're being sober too. [this is not in regards to liquor or alcohol]

4 posted on 06/05/2006 5:32:31 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: NYC Republican
Just between you and me, I think everyone else is wrong......

And I'm not so sure about you......

*rolling eyes*

5 posted on 06/05/2006 5:32:46 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: NYC Republican
I should add, those espousing rounding up all of the illegals and deporting them, NEVER gonna happen. Never.

Not in one fell swoop, no. But we need to deport those we find and, most importantly, make it a Federal offense for states to provide services to illegals. Tax (heavily) wire transfers. Couple those with extreme enforcement of employment laws (Georgia is a definite great example), and the problem will fix itself.

Protecting our borders is a Federal issue -- one of the few times when I think the Supremacy Clause MUST take precedence.

7 posted on 06/05/2006 5:33:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Bipartisanship is when the Stupid Party and the Evil Party agree to do something that is both stupid)
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To: NYC Republican
Another thing that surprises me are rumors of captures of senior Al-Qaeda operatives, including OBL and Zarqawi... A thread gets started and FReepers jump on the bandwagon "high-fiving" each other.

What is so wrong about being optimistic?

8 posted on 06/05/2006 5:34:12 PM PDT by Dog
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To: NYC Republican

Wait an see.


10 posted on 06/05/2006 5:34:22 PM PDT by Frank T
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To: NYC Republican
RINO posters are no better than RINO politicians.


11 posted on 06/05/2006 5:34:24 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: NYC Republican
I should add, those espousing rounding up all of the illegals and deporting them, NEVER gonna happen. Never.

What's easy & what's right are seldom the same.

And why have you now gone and turned this into an illegal immigration thread?

BTW, you're right about the MSM, polls and rumors, but wrong about Hillary.

12 posted on 06/05/2006 5:34:44 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: NYC Republican

You were right, the first post was about illegals. Can't believe you hijacked your own thread.


13 posted on 06/05/2006 5:34:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Dog

Being optimistic is great, but we look like fools high-fiving each other at the slightest whiff of a "rumored" capture... Just my opinion.


14 posted on 06/05/2006 5:35:05 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: NYC Republican
Why, Me Worry?
15 posted on 06/05/2006 5:35:37 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: NYC Republican
I'm just going to walk into this thread and start discussing punk rock.

Whatever happened to real punk rock? You know: Black Flag, Fear, Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, etc.?

Why does anyone allow people to claim that Green Day was ever a punk band ... and still somehow is a punk band?

Oh I'm sorry you started this thread to discuss a topic but I decided I had my own agenda.

Hmmm maybe following the rules occasionally is a helpful thing ...

Maybe some of our wonderful neighbors south of the border, and some of our not-quite-so-patriotic entrepreneurs north of the border should do likewise.

16 posted on 06/05/2006 5:36:06 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: NYC Republican
Bush's numbers are irrelevant at this time. The GOP has distanced itself from him so it remains to be seen if that is smart politics or just desperation. In either case it is craven cowardice on their part. Bush is going to govern his last 2 years just as he has governed for the past 6 . He will not be pressured and he will not be intimidated by anyone. If we lose the congress then there will be an attempt to impeach and it may be successful but I believe he would return to Crawford secure in the knowledge that he kept his promise never to waver and never retreat.
17 posted on 06/05/2006 5:36:39 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Sloth

For the record, I strongly believe that she WON'T get the nod. Bayh will get it, choose her, or more likely, Warner as VP, and cruise to victory as our next POTUS, unfortunately. Just my 2c.


18 posted on 06/05/2006 5:36:50 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: NYC Republican
It seems lonely sometimes. I thought I was the only one who sees most discussions lately end up as anti-illegal immigration/Tom Tancredo for POTUS thread.

The one line posts and "bumps for later" have soured me on FR lately. Hopefully by Oct06 FR will return to what it was that got me interested in the first place.
19 posted on 06/05/2006 5:36:54 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: NYC Republican

Hillary at 40% is going to win the race, but Bush at 38% is in the toilet? You should read what you write before posting it.

By the way, Rasmussen has Hillary at 28%. Please check the polls before posting:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/HillaryMetermay29.htm


20 posted on 06/05/2006 5:38:56 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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