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Illegals' tax deal could kill bill
The Washington Times ^ | Charles Hurt

Posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:55 AM PDT by 2NY

The long-fought Senate immigration bill that opponents say grants amnesty to 10 million illegal aliens is unconstitutional and appears headed for certain demise, Senate Republicans now say. A key feature of the Senate bill is that it would make illegals pay back taxes before applying for citizenship, a requirement that supporters say will raise billions of dollars in the next decade. There's just one problem: The U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits revenue-raising legislation from originating in the Senate.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borderlist; borders; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; notapennyforillegals; whatpartofillegal
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1 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:56 AM PDT by 2NY
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Wasn't the income tax prohibited too? They don't care what the American people want, what's to stop them from amending the constitution and going through with this anyway?? Or what's to stop them from ignoring it all together like the McCain Election law??


2 posted on 06/02/2006 4:26:19 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: 2NY

hey...whatever can kill this awful bill.


3 posted on 06/02/2006 4:26:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
"Kill Bill"
4 posted on 06/02/2006 4:28:06 AM PDT by Barney59 ("Time wounds all heels.")
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To: 2NY
The Senate bill also specifies that illegals will be paid "prevailing wage" that means union wages to you novices.
5 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:21 AM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: 2NY
" The policy of the House, according to the report, has been to interpret "any meaningful revenue proposal" as subject to the origination clause "

Lets hope they stick with precident & the Constitution on this one.

6 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:48 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: 2NY

This bill deserves an early death. And with regard to the RINOs that voted for it, they deserve to be thrown out of office on their back sides.


7 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:57 AM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: CommieCutter

Yes, the income tax was once prohibited. Congress tried to impose one in the late 1800's and the SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional. Congress then proposed, and the states ratified the 16th Amendment, which legalizes the income tax.


8 posted on 06/02/2006 4:30:55 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: mission9

The prevailing wage requirement sort of mitigates the "bargain" aspect of the illegals. If the Senate version becomes law, we will still have to import labor if we want people who will be willing to work for sustandard wages.


9 posted on 06/02/2006 4:40:47 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: 2NY

Bookmark


10 posted on 06/02/2006 4:40:50 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: 2NY
I thought they did the minimum or below wage jobs lazy americans won't do. I'd say that would put them into about the 0.0% tax bracket.

make illegals pay back taxes before applying for citizenship, a requirement that supporters say will raise billions of dollars in the next decade

11 posted on 06/02/2006 4:41:54 AM PDT by DManA
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Hell, they'll just drop the back-tax requirement. Remember, cheap labor at any cost.


12 posted on 06/02/2006 4:42:23 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

That is what illegals and the people who hire them are truly about, it is the new incarnation of slavery.


13 posted on 06/02/2006 4:43:21 AM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: CommieCutter

A well armed populace.


14 posted on 06/02/2006 4:43:30 AM PDT by Anvilhead (Why is it that people who purport to be noble never are?)
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To: 2NY

First I don't consider the "immigration bill" passed by Senate a "victory" for the Republican Senate at all.
It is the worst bill ever and that's because it's a liberal bill by liberals with Republicans going along with them.

Secondly as was pointed out on Fox and Friends this morning the "tax" portion of the bill that states they will collect back taxes from the illegals won't apply since they didn't earn enough on the books to have to pay any taxes at all in fact the government will owe them money!!EIC!

The senate bill is an evil bill by socialists who want those that invade this country illegally to collect welfare benefits at taxpayers expense, free college (dream act) and every freebie know to man. Question is WHY? WHY are criminals being treated to a golden key to America? Is this making any sense to anyone at all???

And the majority are mexican nationals straight from mexico of which there are a lot of mexico's criminals in the mix. They aren't the "good people" they are portrayed to be. And to add to all of this is the infamous anchorbrat act and the infamous dream act, all NIGHTMARE acts perpetrated on the American people.

It's been said we are a melting pot nation, BUT with only mexicans invading bringing their cultures and only speaking spanish we are no longer a melting pot.

Senate says that they must pass an immigration bill, wrong they certainly do not have to pass the golden key to this country bill!!


15 posted on 06/02/2006 4:45:27 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Wolfie

So after they become citizens, they'll continue to receive money under the table (thereby saving their employers a bundle in labor costs)? Somehow, I don't think so.


16 posted on 06/02/2006 4:49:49 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: mission9
****The Senate bill also specifies that illegals will be paid "prevailing wage" that means union wages to you novices.****

Holy cow, you're right.

But that means we're DOOMED !!! Lettuce will cost $10.00 a head, strawberries, $5.00 each and a T-Bone steak $55.00!!

That will kill our economy, and - "the small farmer" - so naturally we'll need another 20 million illegals to keep the price of produce down.

/s

17 posted on 06/02/2006 4:52:58 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Kakaze

Pesky little problem, the constitution, Harry Reid notwithstanding.


18 posted on 06/02/2006 4:53:38 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: 2NY

Death to the Senate Illegal Amnesty bill is the only appropriate action that should be taken!


19 posted on 06/02/2006 4:54:08 AM PDT by petkus
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To: 2NY

It is stunning that on the one hand the Senate cobbled up, with great effort, an incredibly bad bill and on the other hand seemed not to know their constitutional bounds! The more this debacle unfolds the more convinced I become that the original concept of states rights and the Senate being appointed by the state legislature was a stroke of genius that was eliminated by a stroke of insanity.


20 posted on 06/02/2006 4:54:14 AM PDT by MountainMenace
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