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1 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:56 AM PDT by 2NY
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Wasn't the income tax prohibited too? They don't care what the American people want, what's to stop them from amending the constitution and going through with this anyway?? Or what's to stop them from ignoring it all together like the McCain Election law??


2 posted on 06/02/2006 4:26:19 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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hey...whatever can kill this awful bill.


3 posted on 06/02/2006 4:26:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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The Senate bill also specifies that illegals will be paid "prevailing wage" that means union wages to you novices.
5 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:21 AM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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" The policy of the House, according to the report, has been to interpret "any meaningful revenue proposal" as subject to the origination clause "

Lets hope they stick with precident & the Constitution on this one.

6 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:48 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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This bill deserves an early death. And with regard to the RINOs that voted for it, they deserve to be thrown out of office on their back sides.


7 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:57 AM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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10 posted on 06/02/2006 4:40:50 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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I thought they did the minimum or below wage jobs lazy americans won't do. I'd say that would put them into about the 0.0% tax bracket.

make illegals pay back taxes before applying for citizenship, a requirement that supporters say will raise billions of dollars in the next decade

11 posted on 06/02/2006 4:41:54 AM PDT by DManA
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Hell, they'll just drop the back-tax requirement. Remember, cheap labor at any cost.


12 posted on 06/02/2006 4:42:23 AM PDT by Wolfie
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First I don't consider the "immigration bill" passed by Senate a "victory" for the Republican Senate at all.
It is the worst bill ever and that's because it's a liberal bill by liberals with Republicans going along with them.

Secondly as was pointed out on Fox and Friends this morning the "tax" portion of the bill that states they will collect back taxes from the illegals won't apply since they didn't earn enough on the books to have to pay any taxes at all in fact the government will owe them money!!EIC!

The senate bill is an evil bill by socialists who want those that invade this country illegally to collect welfare benefits at taxpayers expense, free college (dream act) and every freebie know to man. Question is WHY? WHY are criminals being treated to a golden key to America? Is this making any sense to anyone at all???

And the majority are mexican nationals straight from mexico of which there are a lot of mexico's criminals in the mix. They aren't the "good people" they are portrayed to be. And to add to all of this is the infamous anchorbrat act and the infamous dream act, all NIGHTMARE acts perpetrated on the American people.

It's been said we are a melting pot nation, BUT with only mexicans invading bringing their cultures and only speaking spanish we are no longer a melting pot.

Senate says that they must pass an immigration bill, wrong they certainly do not have to pass the golden key to this country bill!!


15 posted on 06/02/2006 4:45:27 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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Death to the Senate Illegal Amnesty bill is the only appropriate action that should be taken!


19 posted on 06/02/2006 4:54:08 AM PDT by petkus
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It is stunning that on the one hand the Senate cobbled up, with great effort, an incredibly bad bill and on the other hand seemed not to know their constitutional bounds! The more this debacle unfolds the more convinced I become that the original concept of states rights and the Senate being appointed by the state legislature was a stroke of genius that was eliminated by a stroke of insanity.


20 posted on 06/02/2006 4:54:14 AM PDT by MountainMenace
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There's just one problem: The U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits revenue-raising legislation from originating in the Senate.

Ohhhhh. Unconstitutionality hasn't stopped Congress previously. In the mid 1990's they passed the massive Telecommunications bill, knowing full well that parts were unconstitutional and anticipating that the SC would strike those provisions; the SC did not strike those unconstitutional provisions. In the early 2000's they passed the McCain-Feingold CFR, knowing full well that parts were unconstitutional and anticipating that the SC would strike those provisions; the SC did not strike those provisions.

Legislators and Presidents have a history of passing and signing unconstitutional legislation.
23 posted on 06/02/2006 5:03:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Under House rules, any member can introduce a "blue-slip resolution" to return the legislation to the Senate.

Sounds good to me. I would imagine Tom Tancredo is already on the case.

27 posted on 06/02/2006 5:10:22 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Can we please, please just shut down congress (both houses) for, like, ten years? PLEASE?

OK, twenty years.


39 posted on 06/02/2006 5:18:21 AM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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There's just one problem: The U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits revenue-raising legislation from originating in the Senate.

The U.S. Constitution hasn't stopped these people before; why would it stop them now?

53 posted on 06/02/2006 5:28:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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That is not revenue raising legislation, it is legislation demanding enforcement of existing laws.


59 posted on 06/02/2006 5:33:45 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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hmmm. ping for later


65 posted on 06/02/2006 5:38:12 AM PDT by true_blue_texican (grateful texan! -- whoops! I'm sober tonight, what happened?)
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I've have been asking friends if they have EVER heard of an illegal being audited by the IRS.


74 posted on 06/02/2006 5:43:29 AM PDT by jetson
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This is the main cheerleader for an amnesty:


82 posted on 06/02/2006 5:49:42 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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Sounds like the bill also needs a provision imposing fines for supplying information on its unconstitutionality, just like it now has (up to $10,000!) for immigration officers supplying information on immigrant fraud, including concealment of terrorist activities.


88 posted on 06/02/2006 5:52:02 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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