Skip to comments.
Illegals' tax deal could kill bill
The Washington Times ^
| Charles Hurt
Posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:55 AM PDT by 2NY
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 161-167 next last
To: IrishRainy
A plentiful supply of labor drives down labor cost. Citizenship doesn't have anything to do with it.
21
posted on
06/02/2006 4:57:37 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: stopem
You know, we have become such a complacent society. I would bet that most of the middle class doesn't even know what the EIC is because they've never qualified for it. When the senate talks about their plans they never mention it. That is the true travesty of this bill or any bill that would legalize the illegal immigrants. WITH LEGALIZATION THEY WOULD THEN QUALIFY FOR ALL FREEBIES, NOT JUST FREE HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION!!! THEY WOULD ALSO THEN BE ELIGIALBLE FOR AFFIRMITIVE ACTION. THEY COULD NEVER PAY ENOUGH IN TAXES TO FUND WHAT THEY WOULD USE. ALLOWING FOR LEGALIZATION/GUEST WORKER WHATEVER JUST CREATES MORE WELFARE RECIPIENTS. AND THE BIGGEST WHITE ELEPHANT IN THE LIVINGROOM IS.....WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS BORN HERE TO GUEST WORKERS?????
To: 2NY
There's just one problem: The U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits revenue-raising legislation from originating in the Senate.
Ohhhhh. Unconstitutionality hasn't stopped Congress previously. In the mid 1990's they passed the massive Telecommunications bill, knowing full well that parts were unconstitutional and anticipating that the SC would strike those provisions; the SC did not strike those unconstitutional provisions. In the early 2000's they passed the McCain-Feingold CFR, knowing full well that parts were unconstitutional and anticipating that the SC would strike those provisions; the SC did not strike those provisions.
Legislators and Presidents have a history of passing and signing unconstitutional legislation.
23
posted on
06/02/2006 5:03:43 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Wolfie
E.D. Hill on Fox and Friends had a good point this morning. She said they are most likely qualifying for Earned Income Tax credit at which we will end up paying them, which sucks
24
posted on
06/02/2006 5:07:04 AM PDT
by
Kaslin
To: stopem
"The senate bill is an evil bill by socialists who want those that invade this country illegally to collect welfare benefits at taxpayers expense, free college (dream act) and every freebie know to man"
Exactly right.
"And the majority are mexican nationals straight from mexico of which there are a lot of mexico's criminals in the mix. They aren't the "good people" they are portrayed to be."
Again you hit the nail right on the head.
The evil McCain/Kennedy Senate Amnesty Bill needs strangling, and it will.
25
posted on
06/02/2006 5:09:49 AM PDT
by
Jameison
To: Kaslin
I didn't think of that until E.D. brought it up. The majority of these people will probably qualify for the Earned Income tax refund so instead of them paying back taxes we would be paying them back refunds. This royally sucks!
To: 2NY
Under House rules, any member can introduce a "blue-slip resolution" to return the legislation to the Senate. Sounds good to me. I would imagine Tom Tancredo is already on the case.
To: mission9
"The Senate bill also specifies that illegals will be paid "prevailing wage" that means union wages to you novices."
That would then mean these illegals would have more rights than the average American citizen!! Of course they would anyway, under affirmative action as a minority!! JEEZE?? And can you imagine the multitude of other entitlements?? DADGUMIT!! What are these idiots in congress smoking???
To: MountainMenace
Direct election of Senators would still work imo if their terms were two years instead of six. They're in for way too long and could care less what anybody thinks.
To: nj26
"This bill deserves an early death. And with regard to the RINOs that voted for it, they deserve to be thrown out of office on their back sides."
I am beginning to think that the best thing that could happen to this country would be for the RINOS to be supplanted by RATS. Without a filibusterproof majority, the remaining Republicans can obstruct until they put up more conservative candidates. In addition, SCOTUS would fill the void, like what the RATS did.
30
posted on
06/02/2006 5:14:06 AM PDT
by
EQAndyBuzz
(Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
To: stopem
WHY are criminals being treated to a golden key to America? Is this making any sense to anyone at all??? Two possibilities: (1) we need more bodies to pay into the failing Social Security system; (2) they really don't intend to pass any bill at all. It's a big show, with status quo as the outcome.
I can argue with myself on either point.
31
posted on
06/02/2006 5:14:19 AM PDT
by
angkor
To: Vaquero
hey...whatever can kill this awful bill.That fits right in with GW's strategy and the Seante's. More illegal aliens will jam in here so that when illegal immigration is picked up again 2 years from now their mantra will be
- No way can we deport 20 million hard working people-
MEANWHILE the cheap labor lobby gets it's cheap labor. And more of it. Mexicans go crazy trying to get in here whenever Amnesty bills are in front of Congress
32
posted on
06/02/2006 5:15:27 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
To: bobjam
The Congress got the Sixteenth Amendment through by promising that only "the rich" would pay it and that it would never exceed 3% of anyone's income, thus proving that class warfare and lying by Congress were alive and well in 1913.
To: stopem
"Secondly as was pointed out on Fox and Friends this morning the "tax" portion of the bill that states they will collect back taxes from the illegals won't apply since they didn't earn enough on the books to have to pay any taxes at all in fact the government will owe them money!!" The media, socialists, communists and even most of us make this error in debating tax issues. The government will not owe them money THE TAXPAYERS will. We do it in error the others do it deliberately.
Come on people is there anything the government cannot get away with anymore? Not only is this Senate bill AMNESTY but AMNESTY on steroids where felonies were committed and the felons are given AMNESTY and the taxpayers pay to felons to become legal citizens. Is there an LSD factory somewhere cranking out LSD to be placed in city water systems? Only something like spiked water can account for the way government and citizens, are acting.
The founding fathers would not have tolerated the federal government is its present form. Why should we?
34
posted on
06/02/2006 5:15:56 AM PDT
by
Wurlitzer
(The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
To: Blazing Saddles
"What are these idiots in congress smoking???"
A new, more potent version of crack?
35
posted on
06/02/2006 5:15:58 AM PDT
by
Jameison
To: EQAndyBuzz
I have no problem with any of this.
Let's seal the border first, then we can talk. That should be the only thing the house says in negotiations with the senate.
36
posted on
06/02/2006 5:16:25 AM PDT
by
EQAndyBuzz
(Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
To: Kaslin
Earned Income Tax creditIIRC, Jeff Sessions did a lengthy presentation on this during the Senate debate. It's an ugly scenario.
37
posted on
06/02/2006 5:16:49 AM PDT
by
angkor
To: angkor
Two possibilities: (1) we need more bodies to pay into the failing Social Security system; (2) they really don't intend to pass any bill at all. It's a big show, with status quo as the outcome.#1 Then how come the Senate bill has provisions for illegals to get paid SS via their filings under phony tax numbers all these years?
#2 These illegal alien serfs don't kick in enough to SS whether they are legal or illegal
38
posted on
06/02/2006 5:17:55 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
To: 2NY
Can we please, please just shut down congress (both houses) for, like, ten years? PLEASE?
OK, twenty years.
39
posted on
06/02/2006 5:18:21 AM PDT
by
polymuser
(There is one war and one enemy.)
To: Kaslin
E.D. Hill on Fox and Friends had a good point this morning. She said they are most likely qualifying for Earned Income Tax credit at which we will end up paying them, which sucks
Some stat reports say that a high percentage of illegals also do not have even a high school education. Those reports go on to say that illegals without high school educations actually cause a negative value to the economy in the amount of [negative]$13,000 each. [That is the cost of their family social services, education, health care, etc.]
Official numbers of illegals is around 11 million, although estimates by other range upward to 28 million.
If you consider that at least 75% of the illegals are probably in the 'negative value' category, that soaks the economy for between $107,250,000,000 (11 million) and $273,000,000,000 (28 million). Consider those dollars when buying that $0.99 head of lettuce, which is actually costing Americans much more in subsidies to the illegals.
40
posted on
06/02/2006 5:19:22 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 161-167 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson