John Kerry vs. Swift Vets (A re-match?)

Don't Get SOS ^ | May 27, 2006 | Dustin Hawkins

[WatchYourself]

The puff piece starts out: “John Kerry starts by showing the entry in a log he kept from 1969: “Feb 12: 0800 run to Cambodia.” Right off the bat, this is the first piece where the Swift Boat Vets were 100% correct. At the time, John Kerry stated that his trip took place on Christmas Eve in 1968. The SBV were right at the time, he was NOT iN Cambodia on Christmas Eve of 1968. Kerry had said that this moment was “seared” into him. After the Vets came out, Kerry had his personal biographer come out and it changed to “sometime in January.” Apparently all along it had been February 12, 1969. (And he has a hat to prove it)....

Sweetness and Light also brings up the point about the after-action report on the kid that Kerry shot. (The slimes “proved” that Kerry was telling the truth because the kid was laying on his back, not his stomach, and thus it would have been impossible for Kerry to have shot him while running away. Physics denies it!)

The after action report:

AND MOVED IMMEDIATELY TO ASSIST. PCF 94 BEACHED IN CENTER OF AMBUSH IN FRONT OF SMALL PATH WHEN VC SPRUNG UP FROM BUNKER 10 FEET FROM UNIT. MAN RAN WITH WEAPON TOWARDS HOOTCH, FORWARD M-60 GUNNER WOUNDED MAN IN LEG. OINC JUMPED ASHORE AND GAVE PURSUIT WHILE OTHER UNITS SATURATED AREA WITH FIRE AND BEACHED PLACING ASSAULT PARTIES ASHORE. OINC OF PCF 94 CHASED VC INLAND BEHIND HOOTCH AND SHOT HIM WHILE HE FLED CAPTURING ONE B-40 ROCKET LAUNCHER WITH ROUND IN CHAMBER. OINC’S OF PCF’S 43 AND 23 LED ASSAULT PARTIES THROUGH BRUSH AND JOINED WITH PCF 94 GROUP. PARTIES FR[O]M 3 ACF’S [PRO]CEEDED TO SWEEP AREA AND [ILLEGIBLE]

[Rembrandt]

"Kerry needs to STFU."

I don't want J F'n to EVER shut up. As it is, he just digs the hole deeper and deeper, the depth of that hole is seared, I tell you, seared in my mind! The dog fight btwn Kerry, Algore and her Thighness will be filled with dramatic comedy - I can't wait!

[Waco]

This Nation is expected to, with a wink and nod, allow this S.O.B. to serve as C.I.C.????? Bullsh-t!!!

[Echo Talon]

aww man...

not this sh*T again! LOL

[GregoTX]

" We're over JF Kerry at this point."

We are over his Presidential run, and isnt on out TV every day and night... BUT ... We are not completely over him yet. He is still 1 of 50 US Senators. He is still passing laws and spinning socialism with Ted Kennedy. He is still impacting all of us everytime the Senate votes. As long as he is in the Senate, we are still dealing with this ding-dong.

[pepsionice]

Think about this...the dude could have signed the DD180 back in the election and settled 30 percent of his issues...but he didn't. This story in the press...about him signing the document for release...is just a story and has never proven itself. He did the same thing last summer on Larry King...promising to sign the document very shortly....and never has.

He has no reason to release the document now...and it merely opens up doors that he shut in the 1970s. After the Carter administration cleaned his bad conduct discharge...he was free to run for the senate or do any public service he wanted...except be president. He should have considered just keeping his mouth shut and staying safe in the senate.

[lowbridge]

bump

[backhoe]

This just in from the blogosphere:

TOM MAGUIRE: "John Kerry wants to re-fight the Swift Boats wars.  ( Fine - here is a link to the Schachte story, here are my questions about that incident ) [More Schachte backstory from May 4 - "Schachte ready to re-engage in Kerry Purple Heart dispute"]   My goodness, that is the only thing that could get the Times to cover this - during his campaign they stayed about as far from this story as Kerry was from Cambodia at Christmas time...

 

I got into blogging because of John Kerry's "reporting for duty" and as support for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. I was contributing to their site and wanted to expand on a comment I'd written there, and the rest is history as I started The Squiggler Please join us this weekend in "Honoring our Fallen Heroes." Real heroes, not the phony Kerry kind. My Navy husband was not a Swift Boater, but he was attached to the Mobile Riverine Force, Mekong Delta at the same time Lt. John Kerry was serving there. They were the rescue and salvage team that went out and brought the damaged Swift Boats back for repairs. I first heard about "a cowardly LT" in early 1969. And then again in 1971-1972 after his "Winter Soldier" embarrassment. The reaction I had the night he stood up there and saluted and "reported for duty," my reaction was intense and visceral and brought back all those old memories. John Kerry, next to Jane Fonda, was and is one of the most despised people of the Vietnam Era.

Posted by: Sara (The Squiggler) | May 27, 2006 at 01:00 PM

#317

Bubble Girl  5/27/2006 11:36PM PDT

 

311 Swamprat

No, I don't hate Kerry. But I am very concerned that someone such as this man could almost get into the White House. This is very serious to me.

This man was in a big way responsible for smearing all the living and dead who served in Vietnam. It was a terrible time for our country but this man sat before Congress and knowingly told lies, that our men in Vietnam were raping babies, killing civilians, cutting off body parts..

And then he had the gall to proclaim that he could be a good Commander In Chief.

[libstripper]

It never bothered me that Kerry shot a fleeing VC, no mater what the shootee's age was or that it may have been in the back; that's war. The real problem was that he got so charged up with adrenalin that he abandoned the boat and crew that he was the "officer in charge" of to go on a private glory seeking mission. As OIC his job was to remain in command of the boat and direct other people to physically run down and kill the VC, including that one.

[Non-Sequitur]

Trying to clear his record is not a reason to run for President again. Go home, John.

[srmorton]

I, too, got hooked on internet blogging due to the great job that the "Swifties" did in exposing the real John Kerry that I am old enough to remember from the Vietnam era. For that we owe them a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid. Even though President Bush has made mistakes, he has never wavered from his commitment to the GWOT, even in the face of the polls and the negativity of the drive-by MSM.

What I was wondering, if, God forbid, John McCain were to receive the Republican nomination for POTUS and John Kerry were to be renominated (another unlikely scenario), John McCain would be as dismissive of the Swift Vets as he was during the 2004 campaign. He had to know that they were telling the truth, yet he dissed them at every opportunity.

[MACVSOG68]

There is no evidence that any naval craft were used after the early 60s to infiltrate into either Cambodia or Laos. All cross border operations during the time Kerry was in Vietnam were under the authority of MACV SOG. In the case of where Kerry was operating, it would have been an organization known as Command and Control South (CCS) based out of Ban Me Thout. H-34 helicopters were the primary vehicle used for insertions. Occasionally Hueys would be used.

The orders would have to have come through Kerry's chain of command, especially since the Army ran the cross border operations, and a request for support would have had to go from the CO CCS through MACVSOG to IV Corps and ultimately to the Navy commander in the area.

All cross border operations during that time required a top secret security clearance, and all insertion vehicles, weapons and soldiers had all identification removed. Weapons even had serial numbers removed. This was to ensure deniability.

[bitt]

LT ping!

don't forget to add those keywords, too, folks......"once, twice three times a loser" didn't fit, lol...

[bitt]

good info and response to the Times piece...

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3960

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Karl Rove knew, Nov. 7, 2004 , that hanoi kerry would try to run in '08
and knew Swift Boat Vet's would be called upon,
again, to serve our country.

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Documents

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[redrock]

The American People have already figured out which of the two(the Swift Vets or Kerry)is a liar.

John Kerry is NOT President.

redrock

[bvw]

Yes, that was an act of treason during wartime, imho.

[mylife]

[stephenjohnbanker]

""Not making this up. I heard from a Kerry interview where he said he SIGNED his DD180...but it just wasn't sent yet.""

It is being delivered via SNAIL mail : )

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Kerry Hangs Back From Disclosure to All
The NY Sun June 9, 2005 Josh Gerstein

http://www.nysun.com/article/15135

Did Kerry really release Navy records?
Chicagao Sun Times June 9, 2005 THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lip09.html