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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: Reagan Man
In the 2004 general election, exit polls showed Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote. That was a new record for a Republican candidate. 56% went to John Kerry.

Exactly. Even the 44% number is also in dispute and is considered high.

1,182 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:25 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: VOA
So, once all the illegals have learned English and been made legitimate... who will fill that pool of people that will do "Jobs That Americans Won't Do"?

Another 15 million illegals.

That is exactly why I support a Guest Worker Program where Mexicans can come in legally to pick whatever needs picking, get their money, go home to Mexico in the off-season and come back into the U.S. legally the next season to pick whatever needs picking.

Otherwise, we will have a steady stream of 15 million new illegals sneaking across the border every 10 years and never going home so as not to risk another desert crossing.

1,183 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:32 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: ideas_over_party

If the Council of La Raza likes Bush's policy, it MUST be wrong!


1,184 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:40 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: betsyross1776

First, I'm no lady.


1,185 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:49 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: TFine80

You are soo full crap its not funny. Over 70% of our american makup came in the imigration waves after the Civil War with the Homestead Act that opened the Western Territories to settlements. This brought waves if immigrants from all parts of Europe and Russia to the US forcing the creation of our current immigration laws and the building of the gateway to the US at Rickers Island in NY. Time you read your history, pal!


1,186 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:52 PM PDT by Pharmer (How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

He alsp promised AMNESTY for 11 million criminals in our borders. This is an affront to all who have spent years or TENS OF YEARS following the rules to come here legally.


1,187 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: nikola
How is November going to be a disaster?

Are that many people who call themselves 'conservatives' UN-AMERICAN enough to not vote?

If you do not plan on voting, take a trip to Arlington Cemetery and urinate on soldiers graves.

They died for your right to vote.

The GOP will not lose in 2006 unless the conservative base is littered with UN-AMERICAN non-voters.
1,188 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:57 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: tennmountainman

"I am not as intrested in what he says. I'm want to see WHAT HE DOES. I want to see NG arresting aliens, I want to see a wall. I want to see deportations.

Spare me the promises. Let me see action.

SECURE THE BORDERS!"

ditto


1,189 posted on 05/15/2006 5:47:58 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Jimbaugh
As an investigator I will start leaking some of the dirt I have on local Republicans. I should be lots of fun.

What a windbag. You belong at KKK meeting.

1,190 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:00 PM PDT by bfree ("Smoke 'em if you got 'em")
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To: JeffAtlanta
Heavy on compassion, light on security. Liberals and Rockefeller Republicans will be OK with it. Blue collar dems and the conservative base will not be so happy.

Me? I'm unhappy because I think it weakens President Bush yet again and thus weakens the war on islamofascism.

Here's the weird thing, principle(President Bush's views on immigration) wins out over politics. He simply can not draw a bright line between illegal and legal immigration and thus his principle, though wrong, remains steadfast.

A rarity indeed but the costs will be very expensive in my view.

1,191 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:05 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jess35

At least they work.


1,192 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:15 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: hole_n_one

His assistant probably didn't peel enough grapes for him. He's incendiary.


1,193 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:17 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: Jimbaugh; Jim Robinson
See #1160 for the record.
1,194 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:21 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Jimbaugh

Agreed. I am done voting for Republicans. Done.


1,195 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:22 PM PDT by steel_resolve (BUSH IS WHACK ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.)
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To: michigander
I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay...

Which means those who can produce forged documents that they have been here 5 years. Which means everyone.

...should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law to pay their taxes to learn English and to work in a job for a number of years.

Meaningful penalty = a paltry few thousand. Learn English = a few words on a bogus test. Work in a job = Another forged document.

People who meet these conditions should be able to apply for citizenship but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law.

A short bureaucratic delay = "not automatic".

What I have just described is not amnesty it is a way for those who have broken the law to pay their debt to society, and demonstrate the character that makes a good citizen.

No, what you have described is shamnesty. A way for Bush to try to bamboozle voters so he can deliver the goods to the OBL.

1,196 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:26 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: rodeocowboy

and the 27% that are left liking us are the Bushbots from FreeRepublic.com that would still love us no matter how liberal we become."

lmao


1,197 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:38 PM PDT by Sweetjustusnow (Mr. President and Representatives, do your duty to uphold our laws or you are all gone.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

You left out AMNESTY for THIRTY MILLION ILLEGALS. How do you spin that one?!?


1,198 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:44 PM PDT by nikola
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To: devane617

1,199 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:51 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Do we go for votes or a secure country?


1,200 posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:51 PM PDT by TheLion
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