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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: ideas_over_party
Enforcing the law against employers, removing welfare access, and deporting those you catch for other things would work quite handily. Most would self-deport.

Exactly - I haven't seen anyone seriously advocate mass roundups. Self-deportation has been the approach that has been overwhelmingly advocated here on FR.

1,142 posted on 05/15/2006 5:44:51 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: ideas_over_party

I think the concept of 'self deportation' is the key. I don't think we need to deport millions of illegals. We need to enforce the law, take away their benefits, and they will leave of their own accord.

I am willing to see the problem diminish over time. Seal the border, remove the incentives to be here, and we will see gradual improvement and resolution of the problem.


1,143 posted on 05/15/2006 5:44:55 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: glasseye
Absolutely!

I think that November elections are going to be a disaster. Bush had a chance to reestablish his base tonight and he completely blew it by proposing amnesty for the 30mm illegals. This is simply unacceptable. GOP will suffer because of this speech.

But if Dems win a majority, I have a suspicion that they will try to impeach Bush. It will get really ugly but the President had a chance to avert it tonight. Oh well...
1,145 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:02 PM PDT by nikola
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To: All
I'm skeptical, but I am convinced we must support the president in this and give it a fair chance to work. If it doesn't work, we need to be prepared revisit the problem fast and furious.

I'm signing on.

1,146 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:17 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: mnehrling
That 'tear jerking story' as you called it was about a US MARINE!

An INJURED US Marine! Who was fighting our battles, while these keyboard warriors sit at home and trash him. I cant believe what FR has turned into..

1,147 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:22 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

1,148 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: zook

How many times are you going to post exactly the same sentiment? You liked the speech--I get it.


1,149 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:32 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: daguberment
ALL YOU NAY SAYERS, READ UP!...


President Bush just promised us..
12,000 More Federal Boots on the Border,
More Fencing,
Aerial Patrols,
End of Catch and Release...
The only thing that we have to put up with is an ORGANIZED Guest Worker Program. Where these workers will PAY TAXES. He basically handed us our entire cake, just it was one peice short...

This explains why some of you are acting like spoiled 5 year olds who didnt get enough birthday presents.

1,150 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:34 PM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (www.Rogers2006.com)
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To: warsaw44

" live in Boston and I don't have to tell you how many liberals and Democrats live here. You would not believe how many of them I have spoken with who are adamantly against ANY type of amnesty. Buddies of mine who are libs and I laugh about this being the only political issue we agree on. "

I work with a bunch of libs and we cannot agree on anything. Except this. We have not been this united since immediately after 9/11.
The irony is that libs in my office offer solutions to the problem that are so out there- I couldn't repeat them.


1,151 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:37 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: freedumb2003

I don't know - now, can you answer my question?


1,152 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:37 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: devane617

President Bush has provided a blueprint and now the leadership for immigration reform. He will never appease the unappeasables. Congress is now responsible to turn Bush's plan into real border enforcement. I thought the President hit that one out of the park.

Go Dubya!


1,153 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:38 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Where'd all the good people go?)
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To: Seattle Conservative

"He also said they had to GET TO THE BACK OF THE LINE from those who are legal immigrants, learn English, etc. -- but I guess you missed those parts"

I missed the part that explains how that is to be enforced!


1,154 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:39 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental illness!)
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To: peyton randolph

SUNK...and it would behoove you to get someone to explain what the president said, instead of believing what you only imagined he said.


1,155 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: HHKrepublican_2
For all the folks that are ready to throw GWB and the Republican party by the wayside , you have to acknowledge what that would accomplish....maybe not immediately, but certainly if you set the stage for any Dem President in 2008. If these sacrifices are worth it....go ahead.

Bush's tax cut would be revoked.

His No Child Left Behind would be gutted (except for the money to the schools) guaranteeing ignorance from public school graduates.

The Medicare plan would drop private company's participation and be totally government run and funded, just as Gore wanted.

There would be no chance for additional conservative judges to be appointed for any level, much less the Supreme Court.

Repeal of Roe v. Wade would be impossible.

Illegal immigrants would be given amnesty and citizenship, guaranteeing Dem control of many southwestern states. No wall, no nothing!

America would turn tail and run from Iraq, making OBL very happy, and letting the rest of the Muslim world know we are the wimps OBL says we are.

Iran will get a nuclear weapon.

Israel would be abandoned in favor of Palestine.

No new refineries, no nuclear plants, no drilling for oil or gas in the continental US would be allowed.

Labor unions will be running homeland security.

We can watch while every moonbat charge of the last six years is investigated by Congress....tying up the Administration and the military testifying.

No true conservative could allow a Dem win in November

1,156 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:50 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Jimbaugh

the only people who can stop this - are Republicans in the House. you are casting the net way too wide with that sentiment.


1,157 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:55 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: pissant
And ANY guest worker program must be temporary. That too he said.

Yeah, with all the illegals and the under-the-table economy still going, and of course NO FINES for the employers, which of these employers is going to get rid of their illegals for $5 an hour and hire the Official Guest Workers at $10 an hour?

1,158 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TFine80
He sounds like he's talking to children. It's not an effective speech.

He is. Have you not read most of the childish replies so far?

1,159 posted on 05/15/2006 5:45:58 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: new yorker 77

I don't care anymore. Everyone you vote for is a crook and liar. I will not waist my time and money.

As an investigator I will start leaking some of the dirt I have on local Republicans. I should be lots of fun.


1,160 posted on 05/15/2006 5:46:03 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (Fear the Base !!!)
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