That about says it all.
Expect more baloney tonight.
Troops on the border is just symbolic and stupid. An employer crackdown is what could repatriate a lot of illegals quickly and cheaply.
Promises require credibility. The current track record precludes credibility.
Hell could not have frozen over as the rains have not turned to snow.
Lies, all lies.
This would actually be unfair to employers. Employers are very limited in how far they can go in verifying ID and background, due to anti-discrimination laws.
This line is never repeated by the "Bush has increased funding for border agents by 66% crowd." Yes, they really say that despite the simple fact that all spending is up.
"Government To Go After Employers Of Illegals?"
The government plans to crack down ever harder on employers who harbor and hire illegal immigrants, pursuing companies that ignore the law so they can exploit cheap labor.
You got that right pal.
A real con job.
Not gonna happen. The government has no spine for law enforcement. Between pressure from the business lobbies and threats of racism charges from the hispanic lobby, the gov't is like a wimpering little girl. In the end it will do what it has always done about this problem... NOTHING.
Tonights speech is just another dog and pony show to appease those who actually pay for the whole problem. But PAYING FOR IT doesn't get you a voice in Washington today. Now... if you BENEFIT from it... well, you've yourself a damn megaphone.
If Bush gives us the 'baloney' tonight... the Republican party gets the 'salami' come November. The employers and the states have to be put-on-notice that dealing with illegals means fines & jail-time.
I posted this last night, fits here....
We are all suckers, repub's and demophilth alike. All this speech tomorrow will be about is lets mollify the rabble(read voters).
Does anyone actually think the "political donor" class would EVER give up "an unlimited supply of $8 dollar an hour workers"?
This is ALL about economics, always has been. Why are the "political donor" class clamoring for more high-teck workers every year? The more foreign teck workers the "political donor class" can get into the country the lower the pay of all teck workers. This problem can be placed at the feet of the greedy, who would sell out America for an extra 1/2% return on investment.
Now imagine the ripple effect on the economy that "an unlimited supply of $8 an hour workers" has? Ask anyone with a background in economics what happens when supply is increased, then ask what happens when supply is unlimited.
We are being screwed by the politicians who owe all the the 'employer/political donor' class.
Call me what you will, but I do know that you need wealthy people to live in a wealthy country. I suffer no "class envy", but I believe the game is now being rigged by those with the money to rig the system.
I have heard the LIE spoken from the mouth of our president, whom I may add I walked precincts for in the last 2 general elections, "they are just doing the jobs Americans do not want to do".
The truth is simply "Why pay the wages an American would demand when a criminal immigrant would do this job for $8 an hour".
This could be the death of the middle class, IMHO. This is ALL about keeping wages down of the majority for the benefit of the minority.
I am sure that this is a naive question (and I'm not from Rio Linda, dammit!), but do employers know that they are hiring illegal immigrants?
Yea sure! this will last all of two weeks and then when the pressures off the Administration so will the number of prosecutions for hiring illegal aliens. We'll see.
Every new job I have had I needed to bring in my passport (or other proof of US Citizenship) on the first day of work.
How do these employers get away with it?
Secure the border first! If the first approach is removing illegals, We can expect a huge backlash against consumers.
Tonight will be a total waste of time. It's just putting the final signature to turn the country over to Fox.
Like the minutemen let us pull together thousands of Retired Americans who are willing to act as an oversight group to keep an eye on our Govt. in Action.
Check out every promise they plop on us and stick it in their ear when they fail.
How about cutting off all government "benefits" to illegals. No public schools for their ninios, no subsidized housing, no free health care. You don't get rid of cockroaches by closing your doors - you get rid of them by cleaning your house.
Excellent. Then there ain't no need for Congress to do anything except give you more agents, guns, trucks and stuff.
That's certainly an understatement:
Employer Investigation Efforts of U.S. Immigration Authorities:
Fiscal Year | Worksite Arrests | Notices of Intent to Fine |
1993 | 7,630 | 1,302 |
1994 | 7,554 | 1,063 |
1995 | 10,014 | 1,056 |
1996 | 14,164 | 1,019 |
1997 | 17,554 | 865 |
1998 | 13,914 | 1,023 |
1999 | 2,849 | 417 |
2000 | 953 | 178 |
2001 | 735 | 100 |
2002 | 485 | 53 |
2003 | 445 | 162 |
2004 | 159 | 3 |
The average annual worksite arrests under Clinton was 9,329 arrests. The average annual worksite arrests under President Bush is 456. This is a 95 percent reduction in average annual worksite arrests under President Bush.
The average annual notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens under Clinton was 865. The average under President Bush is 79.5. This is a 90 percent reduction in average annual notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens.
And then there is 2004 where, under President Bush, only 3 notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens were done. 3!! But that was President Bush's worst year. Let's compare best years then.
Under Clinton his best year for Worksite Arrests was 1997 with 17,554 reported. President Bush's best year was 2001 with 735 worksite arrests reported. This is a 99.7 percent reduction in worksite arrests under President Bush when comparing best years.
Clinton Presidency, Total Aliens Expelled:
1993 1,285,952
1994 1,074,781
1995 1,364,688
1996 1,643,108
1997 1,555,116
1998 1,743,273
1999 1,755,754
2000 1,861,933
Total over 8 years: 12,284,605
Average Annual Total Aliens Expelled: 1,535,575
Bush Presidency, Total Aliens Expelled:
2001 1,432,061
2002 1,084,661
2003 1,076,483
2004 1,238,319
Total over 4 years: 4,831,524
Average Annual Total Aliens Expelled: 1,207,881
The average annual total of aliens expelled under President Bush is 327,694 LESS than the average under President Clinton. That is a 21.3 percent reduction in aliens expelled compared between Clinton and President Bush.
Deportable Aliens located in non-border sectors (interior enforcement):
Clinton presidency, last four years:
1997 44,246
1998 39,096
1999 42,010
2000 32,759
Total: 158,111
Bush presidency, first four years:
2001 30,496
2002 25,501
2003 26,492
2004 21,113
Total: 103,602
Total deportable aliens located in interior sectors during the first four years of the Bush presidency represents a 34.4 percent drop compared to the previous four years - the last four years of the Clinton presidency.
Deportable Aliens Located:
Clinton Presidency first four years:
1993 1,327,261
1994 1,094,719
1995 1,394,554
1996 1,649,986
Total: 5,466,520
Clinton Presidency last four years:
1997 1,536,520
1998 1,679,439
1999 1,714,035
2000 1,814,729
Total: 6,744,723
Bush Presidency first four years:
2001 1,387,486
2002 1,062,279
2003 1,046,422
2004 1,241,089
Total: 4,737,276
Total deportable aliens located dropped by 29.7 percent in the first four years of the Bush Presidency compared to the previous four years - the last four years of the Clinton Presidency.