Posted on 03/31/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
Princeton University sociologist Douglas S. Massey reports that 62 percent of illegal immigrants pay income taxes (via withholding) and 66 percent contribute to Social Security. Forbes magazine notes that Mexican illegals aren't clogging up the social-services system: only 5 percent receive food stamps or unemployment assistance; 10 percent send kids to public schools.
Economist Larry Kudlow praises Hispanic entrepreneurship: "According to 2002 Census Bureau data, Hispanics are opening businesses at a rate three times faster than the national average. In addition, there were almost 1.6 million Hispanic-owned businesses generating $222 billion in revenue in 2002."
Total crime and property crime in California are half what they were in 1980; violent crime has fallen more than a third. The state's Hispanic population during that time has increased 120 percent.
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Another way to look at this is that 38% of Illegal Immigrants do not pay income tax, and 32% do not pay Social Security tax, and over 90% do not educate their children and assimilate them as Americans, when given the opportunity to do so for free..
Most of those are tamale stands that offer sub-standard meat stuffed in animal-feed corn flour.
It's the elephant in the room. If they admit that they're supporting lawbreakers, their entire premise falls apart. They're just liberals of a different stripe. Some support Tookie, and some support Mexican criminals.
When I get caught for speeding, I get punished for it.
No to the first, yes to the second. On the first, illegal immigration is a problem, but I don't regard that act as being inherently criminal. It isn't a felony like rape, robbery, kidnapping, murder, and the like.
On the second, speeding is actually worse than working without the proper government documents. At least speeding is sometimes dangerous to others. I uphold freedom. I should be free to hire anyone I want on any terms we can agree. And ditto if I am a worker seeking employment. Instead of whining that illegal immigrants aren't getting government mandated wages and benefits, we should repeal the laws so mandating these wages and benefits. If someone is willing to work at lower wages and benefits, well, that's part of what freedom means. He is still doing better than he would in corrupt, socialist Mexico.
I'll grant you that, as far as it goes, but as wildly divergent as the estimates are of how many illegals are in the country, I don't think anybody's suggested they come even close to being 30% of the population. In any event, I'm not trying to make a point about criminal proclivity but about strains on our financial resources and criminal justice system.
double bump - bump
Yikes. But thanks.
susie
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What do the other 90% do with their kids?
"Economist Larry Kudlow"
LOL
Last night somebody called President Bush an "arrogant psychopath who deems himself King, Lord, and Master"
here
Really funny the knee-jerk reaction of otherwise rational posters.
For some reason, Tony Snow seems to equate illegal miscreants with good, hardworking Hispanics. I have no doubt the two sets intersect, but what good are we doing our own country if we don't have the resolve to boot out the border-jumpers, be they Hispanic, Irish, Arab, Slavic, etc.
You are equating speeding with illegal invasion and calling speeding more dangerous than the balkanization of America?
Wow!
"Total crime and property crime in California are half what they were in 1980; violent crime has fallen more than a third. The state's Hispanic population during that time has increased 120 percent." ---- fine, maybe the violent crime rate should have decreased by 2/3.
Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:
• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.
• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.
So you've counted 20-25 million illegals with your own "lying eyes?" Pure hyperbole -- you don't have any idea how many there really are.
Why should I believe your claim, any more than the alternative?
No one here called him a name, so you had to go import that from another thread? LOL Now, THAT'S funny!
susie
Illegal aliens can open up businesses in Missouri with an ITIN number.
Now remember: georgie insists on "rational debate".
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