Calabasas, CA: Help Stop The Attack On Your Rights!!!

United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | 3-17-06

[SheLion]

Help Stop The Attack On Your Rights!!!

The City of Calabasas in an over whelming attempt to stamp out what they feel is an unwanted part of their community has passed a law banning smoking from public places. Not only banning but making it a misdemeanor punishable by up to $1000 fine and/or six months in jail. That is not all if you witness a smoker in the act and don't report them you are guilty of aiding and abiding which holds the same punishment regardless of how you feel about smoking.

Calabasas using its own unique judgment has inacted a law that not only bans smoking but also bans your freedoms, freedoms of choice, the pursuit of happiness and other. Utilizing this law to attack and scapegoat a percentage of its population it deems unfit. Calabasas has chosen to treat smokers as a pariah much in the same way people viewed immigrants coming into this country. These people are not Terrorist they are not attacking or even harming those around you as some may say. If cigarette smoking was the reason behind this why did Calabasas simply ban the sale of tobacco and tobacco related products. They know they can't they feel if they attack the people and try to prove to people it is in their best interest. If Calabasas is so worried about the health and welfare of its people why do they still allow cars and big rigs into their town?

We ask that all people residence of Calabasas and those traveling in and around Calasbasas to stand up for your rights and the rights of your neighbors. Stand up and protest this unlawful and blatant attack on you civil liberties. Boycott Calabasas now! Don't shop in the city of Calabasas.
Drive a little further down the road shop in Augora, Hidden Hills, or Woodland Hills. If these politicians think they can be an isolated city where your freedoms mean nothing showing them that you will not stand for this type of injustice. In the coming days we will also be organizing peaceful protest but this boycott will be the loudest and most meaningful
way to show your disgust to a community who has no interest in protecting the rights of its people.

We as Americans have the duty to defend those who are being persecuted unjustly by those in power. This kind of McCarthyism will no longer be tolerated by the American people. A people whose beliefs are tolerance and justice for all.

Your Civil Liberties Are Under Attack !

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[SheLion]

[TeenagedConservative]

I agree that this is an attack on civil liberties, but how can you answer the counter-argument that smoking damages other people's health and is therefore not a private choice?

[SheLion]

I agree that this is an attack on civil liberties, but how can you answer the counter-argument that smoking damages other people's health and is therefore not a private choice?

This is just more lies being spewed by the highly paid professional anti's.  When their war on the smokers didn't work, they started this business that our smoke is killing everyone.

When even a Federal Court threw out the EPA's findings on second hand smoke:

DON'T LET THE HEADLINES FOOL YOU
Court throws out challenge to EPA findings on secondhand smoke - (December 2002) - The ruling was based on the highly technical grounds that since the EPA didn't actually enact any new regulations (it merely declared ETS to be a carcinogen without actually adopting any new rules), the court had no jurisdiction to rule in the matter.  This court ruling on the EPA report is NOT a stamp of approval for that report. Judge Osteen's criticisms of the EPA report are still completely valid and is accompanied by other experts.

and:

Oak Ridge Labs, TN & SECOND HAND SMOKE 

Statistics and Data Sciences Group Projects

I think any anti who tries to dismiss the findings of the U.S. Department of Energy labs at Oak Ridge, should be confronted with the question: "Are you saying that DOE researchers committed scientific fraud and that their findings on ETS exposure are untrue?"

[Vicomte13]

Smoking doesn't damage anybody else's health if it's done in a public park faraway from other people.

But that, too, is apparently made a crime, as is not reporting it.

Isn't there any limit on state and local law?

[SheLion]

But that, too, is apparently made a crime, as is not reporting it.

Isn't there any limit on state and local law?

Outside of "barf" and "puke?"  I'd sure love to use some of these lawmakers as barf bags!

[Ben Mugged]

How do you explain the asthma attacks I get anytime I'm around cigarette smoke? I only get them around cigarettes, not other kinds of smoke. How do you explain the death of my sister at 36 from lung cancer when she never smoked a day in her life but lived for 22 years with my Mother and Father who both chain smoked (my Dad died a few years later from cancer). How do you explain this? I would just love to hear your explanation......

[lilyred]

If they spent as much time and energy against drugs/dope we would have had that problem solved by now.

[Amerigomag]

Smoking will no longer be center stage once the avian flu pandemic arrives.

Folks won't even be able to detect the odor of nearby cigarette smoke after they've dawned their obligatory, full faced, carbon filtered respirators before going out doors.

[webboy45]

Some smokers see in the constitution the right to smoke wherever they want. Some nonsmokers see in the constitution the right to be free of smoke wherever they want. In the past deference was given to the smokers. Now the pendulum is swinging to the other side and smokers are crying foul just because they are now treated the way nonsmokers used to the treated (shut-up and live with it!). I think it's about time our parks were free from smoke and cig buts.

[Hank Rearden]

Genetic allergies?

What percentage of people are like your family? Should we micromanage everyone's behavior based on the miniscule allergics?

[sangoo]

...Don't shop in the city of Calabasas. Drive a little further down the road shop in Augora, Hidden Hills, or Woodland Hills...

There isn't really much shopping available in Calabasas, and as for Hidden Hills...I don't think they have ANY place to shop.

[calex59]

Second hand smoke doesn't harm anyone's health if the person is healthy already. If you are not healthy, I.E.: asthma, etc, then you should stay away from smokers. Second hand smoke is a fraud of the worst order and should be exposed by the media, but of course it won't be.

[heleny]

Smoking will no longer be center stage once the avian flu pandemic arrives. Folks won't even be able to detect the odor of nearby cigarette smoke after they've donned their obligatory, full faced, carbon filtered respirators before going out doors.

How would people smoke if they wore respirator masks?

Seriously, though, it seems Calabasas could ban diesel exhaust for the same reasons it banned cigarette smoking -- that other people nearby would be exposed to the smoke. Then, deliveries would all stop.

[Madame Dufarge]

In the past deference was given to the smokers.

No, in the past recognition was given to private property rights.

As to litter, there have always been ordinances against it, and judging from the amount of soda cans and Fritos bags I've seen littering the highways and byways, I'd say many people are guilty of this, smokers or not.

[TeenagedConservative]

Thank you. That was precisely was I hoped/thought. =)

[SheLion]

How do you explain the asthma attacks I get anytime I'm around cigarette smoke? I only get them around cigarettes, not other kinds of smoke. How do you explain the death of my sister at 36 from lung cancer when she never smoked a day in her life but lived for 22 years with my Mother and Father who both chain smoked (my Dad died a few years later from cancer). How do you explain this? I would just love to hear your explanation......

Ok.  For one thing, how about reading the report put out today about Asthma.  And please read the whole article.  No where does it even mention smoking or second hand smoke.

And this is from the New England Journal of Medicine:

Immune System Cells May Be Cause of Asthma

As for your other questions, I will let them be.  You just came in here feeling all smart and cocky looking for a fight.  I am not in the mood tonight to get into it with you.

How do you explain the asthma attacks I get anytime I'm around cigarette smoke? I only get them around cigarettes, not other kinds of smoke. How do you explain the death of my sister at 36 from lung cancer when she never smoked a day in her life but lived for 22 years with my Mother and Father who both chain smoked (my Dad died a few years later from cancer). How do you explain this? I would just love to hear your explanation......

Ok.  For one thing, how about reading the report put out today about Asthma.  And please read the whole article.  No where does it even mention smoking or second hand smoke.

And this is from the New England Journal of Medicine:

Immune System Cells May Be Cause of Asthma

As for your other questions, I will let them be.  You just came in here feeling all smart and cocky looking for a fight.  I am not in the mood tonight to get into it with you.

[SheLion]

I think it's about time our parks were free from smoke and cig buts.

And I think we all have had just about enough of do-gooders and fascism.  Don't you?!

[microgood]

That is not all if you witness a smoker in the act and don't report them you are guilty of aiding and abiding which holds the same punishment regardless of how you feel about smoking.

Yea, right. That will last until the first time it happens.

[Finny]

I'm very sorry for your losses ... but how do you explain the fact that my mother was born whole and healthy to a mother (my grandmother) who smoked incessantly even while she was pregnant ... my mother and uncle (who don't smoke) have never had respiratory problems though they were raised in a home where their mother smoked several packs a day ... that my grown nephew who was raised around two parents who smoke quite a lot has never indicated any sign of respiratory problems ... how do you explain those things? Or that my grandmother who smoked so heavily lived to be in her late 80s?

Cause and affect aren't always what they appear.