Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
Fish puns. To pass the time when the Docs were all tide up.
Why is that? I mean, both the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are equally valid from a scientific point of view. Why does one spawn more "loons" than the other?
All you really need to know is that creationist geologists looked in zealous earnest for the residue of a world-wide flood for most of the 18th century and into the 19th. The last one of any prominence punted in 1831.
Because no other scientific theory has stirred up such a public controversy.
Why isn't the general public clamoring against teaching the theory of gravity as "just a theory?"
Because it doesn't obviously contradict a literal reading of biblical text, IMO.
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Not necessarily, though he would be 71 -- a creakin' hunk of smoldering love...
Well, it is a large task, to be sure. The deepest hole ever drilled into the earth revealed much more water than was expected. I don't think science wil ever know exactly how much water exists on this planet. It is especially difficult because it takes different forms, including the part that makes up c. 60% of every human body.
Two four six eight
Who do evos castigate?
Zeeba. Zeeba.
Yeeeeeaaaaaa Zeeba.
Still just hearsay.
A Mathematician, a Biologist and a Physicist are sitting in a street cafe watching people going in and coming out of the house on the other side of the street.
First they see two people going into the house. Time passes. After a while they notice three persons coming out of the house.
The Physicist says: "The initial measurement wasn't accurate."
The Biologist concludes: "They have reproduced."
The Mathematician says: "Now if another person enters the house, it'll be empty again."
Looking good, but it somehow is just not the same
LOLOL! Mr.Zeeba!
Still just hearsay.
I assumed the same as now. Then I calculated the volume change to float the ark to 13,000 feet about current sea level.
Did you take into account the water found several miles below the earth's surface?
The Oglala Aquifer is neither that big nor that low. But say such a body of water existed. Where is it now? What occupied the volume when the water was up here? If the answer is "nothing," why didn't the huge empty space collapse?
Do you know where all the earth's water is?
I've often been swimming in it.
Do you know with much exactitude what were the physical characteristics of the earth's surface several thousand years ago?
I know with exactitude there's no evidence it was ever all underwater.
Did you start your calculations while holding the belief that all accounts of a world-wide deluge are false?
Absolutely. Can't help being educated and capable of critical thought. Knew the claim was stupid. Just wanted to put some numbers on "stupid."
Don't worry, I don't get it either. LOL!
Why is that? I mean, both the theory of gravity and the theory of evolution are equally valid from a scientific point of view. Why does one spawn more "loons" than the other?
Because, as whattajoke pointed out, there's no money in it. What does the Bible say about gravity anyway?
Well, Jesus was. Who am I to argue with the Lord?
So you are saying that there is no allegory, or parable, involved?
Are you saying that there is no mistake whatsoever?
How do reconcile the vast differences between the biblical accounts and the archaeological/geological record?
You're a wild one
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