Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
How can you explain a continuous archaeological record in the western US for up to 13,400 years? Continuous=no evidence of a flood with everything washed away and replaced from Eurasia?
How about a mtDNA record that is close to as long, and shows no break/population replacement at 4,000-5,000 years ago where the flood is supposed to have occurred?
And the critters make that record look shabby. They have tens or hundreds of thousands of years in the New World with no evidence of a global flood.
Not the atheist materialist secular agenda!
And then God erased all traces of having done so?
Essentially, you're saying God altered the scene of a mass homicide, thus denying us evidence of same.
I need to warn you: I am a former cop.
When the perpetrator tampers with the scene of a homicide to prevent discovery of evidence, that is considered prima facie evidence of wrongful intent.
Some people do try to claim that there were no appreciable mountains pre-flood, that most of the altitude we see today came in turmoils immediately post-flood. Of course, that has literalism problems too. That requires crazily energetic actions which would have vaporized the oceans, melted the crust, and killed everybody. All mountains should appear the same age. There are other problems.
Did one of them really post something that stupid? Glad I missed it or I might have broken a few new FR mis-speak rules!
You mean that isn't true?!!!
You're speaking to a person whose short-term memory is ... what was the question?
Well, Jesus was. Who am I to argue with the Lord?
That's funny and Your tagline is really funny, too.
Dang... what thread was that? It's killing me now and I have to find it for those who missed it - and for our friends on this thread to defend it, of course.
What did you use as a starting figure for the earth's water? Did you take into account the water found several miles below the earth's surface? Do you know where all the earth's water is? Do you know with much exactitude what were the physical characteristics of the earth's surface several thousand years ago? Did you start your calculations while holding the belief that all accounts of a world-wide deluge are false?
Because a bunch of loons aren't constantly telling them how gravity is contrary to the teachings of God and Jesus and that "real" Christians must believe that angels are responsible for the observed phenomenon that athiestsecularistmaterialistdarwinists call "gravity"?
Well I didn't check to see if it was online since it's a commentary in the blue letter bible series. Still that being the case, I should have said which commentary.
His judgments are righteous.
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. (Psalms 19:9 KJV)
All those people would have been dead by now anyway, wouldn't they? So who are you to judge God?
Is God not free to do with his creation as he pleases? Or must he run everything by you first?
BTW do you Fear the Lord?
I knew there would be someone willing to take on this Herculean task. Here's something to occupy the fertile minds of creation scientists. Find the missing water.
Well there is a cheerleader who castigates me regularly. I'm sure she'll be along soon
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