Posted on 02/05/2006 7:34:22 PM PST by Pharmboy
PARIS -- Cave drawings thought to be older than those in the famed caves of Lascaux have been discovered in a grotto in western France, officials from the Charente region said Sunday.
A first analysis by officials from the office of cultural affairs suggests the drawings were made some 25,000 years ago, Henri de Marcellus, mayor of the town of Vilhonneur where the cave is located, told France-Info radio.
He said, however, that the date could only be confirmed by further investigations.
Cavers exploring a part of a grotto in the Vilhonneur forest made the discovery in December, the local newspaper Charente Libre reported Saturday.
News was withheld until a first investigation could be carried out, local officials said on French radio.
"If this first expertise is confirmed, the paintings discovered here (change) scientific findings date to Lascaux and Altamira in Spain," Michel Boutant, head of the local government, said on France-Info radio.
The famed Lascaux Cave in Montignac, in the Dordogne region of southwest France, has long been considered one of the finest examples of cave paintings. The art dates back 13,000 years, like those in Altamira, in northwest Spain.
However, the Chauvet cave, discovered in the mid-1990s in southeast France, features some 300 examples of Paleolithic animal art dating back in some cases 31,000 years.
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Agreed, big. Now where is the Mothership buried? This is not a coincidence.
"Any cartoons of Mohammad?"
That is rich!
Here's the picture taken off it back then.
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I also said "good artists". As we all know, most people have some degree of artistic talent, but not enough to be considered "good".
Good artists run in families.
The Neandertal EnigmaFrayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
by James Shreeve
If they drew Mohammed, the caves are going to be destroyed.
It says how long intelligent humans have dwelled here..... Some say the Sphynx is 3000 yrs. old, others say 20,000 yrs. old. Anyway, it can say a lot of things.
We really have no idea, yet our scientist speak with such confidence about all sorts of things, like the Big Bang, yet we know so little about ourselves....
Nah.
They were still here 12-13,000 years ago (some suspect they're still here)...they have been identified as Homo-Erectus...that also means they survived the worldwide devastating Toba eruption 74,000 years ago in that area.
"The French are experts at caving."
Ouch!
"Nah" what? Interesting link, thanks. The Sphinx, even according to your link, is way older than currently held "beliefs". Your link puts it at maybe 8000 BC. For some currently unknown reason, we are missing a huge part of our historical record. I don't have a link handy for 20,000 years old, however, I now have the link you provided (thanks again!) which demonstrates it is much older than it is currently attributed. Fascinating.
Dr Robert Schoch is the only 'reputable' person I know who has dated it this old. Maybe (the tourist guide) Graham Hancock dated it earlier, so...
Let's take the average cave man at home, listening to his stereo. Sometimes he'd get up, try to do his thing. He'd begin to move, something like this: "Dance . . . dance." When he got tired of dancing alone, he'd look in the mirror: "Gotta find a woman gotta find a woman gotta find a woman gotta find a woman." He'd go down to the lake where all the woman would be swimming or washing clothes or something. He'd look around and just reach in and grab one. "Come here . . . come here." He'd grab her by the hair. You can't do that today, fellas, cause it might come off. You'd have a piece of hair in your hand and she'd be swimming away from you.
This one woman just lay there, wet and frightened. He said: "Move . . . move." She got up. She was a big woman. BIG woman. Her name was Bertha. Bertha Butt. She was one of the Butt sisters. He didn't care. He looked up at her and said: "Sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me sock it to me!" She looked down on him. She was ready to crush him, but she began to like him. She said: "I'll sock it to ya, Daddy!" He said: "Wha?" She said: "I'll sock it to ya, Daddy!" You know what he said? He started it way back then. I wouldn't lie to you. When she said, "I'll sock it to ya, Daddy!" he said, "Right on! Right on! Hotpants! Hotpants! Ugh . . . ugh . . . ugh!"
Thanks for your info, I think I saw that DR.'s show one time, he had very compelling evidence about water damage on the Sphinx. These new cave drawings at 25,000 years old would be revolutionary....
We, the Earth, and the Universe have been here way longer than we know, or claim to know.
25,000 Years Old Cave Drawings Spark Muslim Protests
Cave drawings thought to be older than those in the famed caves of Lascaux have been discovered in a grotto in western France. A first analysis by officials from the office of cultural affairs suggests the drawings were made some 25,000 years ago.
Several of the drawings—one showing an apparently turban-wearing human figure eating a wild pig—are deemed to be offensive to Islam. Coming on top of the cartoons of Mohammed published in Denmark and reprinted in several other European countries, Muslim anger has continued to swell.
“These infidels cannot continue to mock us without consequence,” said Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah. “The West should be prepared for the real holocaust. When Iran has the bomb there will be no mercy for these blasphemers.”
In an effort to placate Muslims outraged by these depictions, the U.S. State Department has directed all U.S. embassies to discontinue serving Danish or French pastries during all official functions.
“These feeble measures are not enough,” Nasrallah says. “At a minimum, Western nations must pass laws decreeing the death penalty for all who insult Islam there will be no peace. Failure to do so constitutes an act of aggression against our faith. Death and destruction will be the penalty.”
read more at...
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
God created man only 6,000 years ago.
What an interesting theory. It holds true, though, in all the discovered cave art. There are no preliminary sketches, or practice walls. And there is perspective, and foreshortening of animals preparing to leap, which was absent from European art until the early Renaissance.
I wonder how this came to be. How would it have been genetic? How did it happen, this impulse to record the outer world?
I know the Charente region; there are caves along the river near St. Onge, just a dirt path between the caves and the trees and bushes on the riverbank. There are few tourists in the Charente, it is not that easy to get to driving, but it is one of the loveliest, to me, parts of France. It must have been paradise for our ancestors as the ice age receded.
Thank you both for your posts.
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