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To: John Jorsett

Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate. I'd keep the Beretta, unless they're coming out with an new/accurate .45 design.


7 posted on 01/29/2006 11:17:56 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

Your gun must have been a piece of garbage. My Kimber .45 is extremely accurate.


12 posted on 01/29/2006 11:19:45 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: DTogo
Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate. I'd keep the Beretta, unless they're coming out with an new/accurate .45 design.

I agree that its better to hit with a .22 than miss with a .44, but the .45 accuracy issue is all about the particular model and upgrades. My brother can empty the clip in five seconds and hit a hand sized target with every shot at 70 feet. I sure am glad he's MY brother.

26 posted on 01/29/2006 11:27:43 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: DTogo

I saw a guy put 5 in the x ring with a 1911 in three seconds from 50 feet.

Holding the pistol upside down, one hand on his knee, bent over and firing with his pinkie.

He was the coach of the USMC pistol team in 1975.

I guess you just have to shoot it right.


28 posted on 01/29/2006 11:28:47 AM PST by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: DTogo
Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate.

I used to hear that a lot until I made a Combat Handgun Pistol Team. I learned how to shoot the M1911-A1 and found it to be a very accurate reliable weapon. There were two of us from the same company on the team, so we were in charge of qualifying the company officers on the .45. When they learned how to use they two were impressed.
70 posted on 01/29/2006 11:55:04 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: DTogo
I have 3 - a Wilson CQB, Kimber Custom II and a Colt Series 80 Commander w/ Ed Brown barrel & Novak low mounts.
All will group 1-1/2" or less - depending how much coffee I've had.............of course these are all IDPA power factor compliant (165+), not wimp loads.
Find someone with a modern gun, you will be pleased with the results.
.45's have come a long way indeed.
Regards.
85 posted on 01/29/2006 12:05:53 PM PST by LFOD (Formerly IRAQ - now home.....)
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To: DTogo

Your barrel must have been bent. Marines Force Recon uses the .45 M1911 and have no problems shooting expert.


94 posted on 01/29/2006 12:11:38 PM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad)
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To: DTogo
Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate. I'd keep the Beretta, unless they're coming out with an new/accurate .45 design.

That's odd because when I was on the 9th Infantry Division Pistol Team (Composite Bullseye) we only used Colt Gold Cup 1911A1 45's. Still, if I had to choose ONE 45 for a "go to war" gun straight out of the box, knowing it would be 100% accurate and 100% reliable I go with the H&K USP Tactical. It'll take a threaded suppressor, too. I currently CCW an H&K USP (45) standard size. 12+1 in the gun and 12 in a spare mag on my left hip. I usually carry OWB in a Galco model "Concealable" open top and I use the "Concealable" 1.5 tapered belt with a Galco quick remove ammo carrier. Using components made to go together makes this an extremely comfortable rig and it virtually disappears under a XXL Hawaiian shirt here in Miami, FL. I wear a pastel t-shirt underneath and I'm just another tourist with a big belly. I compete IDPA with the exact same rig.

119 posted on 01/29/2006 12:29:43 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: DTogo

A service issue .45, particularly if worn has a main source of inaccuracy. The barrel is aligned with the sights by the barrel bushing which wears. If the .45 with the action closed allows significant movement of the barrel in the slide, then it will not shoot acccurately.

This is very easily remedied by using eitehr a new bushing or a slightly tighter National Match bushing. Less than $10.


194 posted on 01/29/2006 1:25:10 PM PST by Wisconsin
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To: DTogo

I have one built by Springfield Armory and it is a pretty good shooter.


199 posted on 01/29/2006 1:35:39 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: DTogo

I shot the .45 in 1987 while at OBC. I loved it. Mine was so accurate that I was able to purposefully shot out one of the wooden posts holding the target.

I bet my buddy a beer that I would be able to pull it off, everyone else thought I was just a bad shot...


205 posted on 01/29/2006 2:11:48 PM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: DTogo

The .45 is designed for close range, as would any sidearm be designed.


233 posted on 01/29/2006 3:05:38 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: DTogo
Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate.

Funny, I used one to get a perfect score in the qualifying test for my concealed carry license. Perhaps your head is really tiny and requires exceptionally precise shooting?

241 posted on 01/29/2006 3:20:59 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: DTogo
Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate. I'd keep the Beretta, unless they're coming out with an new/accurate .45 design.

I've got 2 .45 1911s that are both more accurate than I can fire them... And I've shot a 1911 that grouped 1" at 50 yards from a Ransom Rest.

Believe me, the 1911 can be one heck of an accurate pistol.

Mark

252 posted on 01/29/2006 4:01:27 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: DTogo
I've practised at 100 yards with my 1911 Colt Commander. It's fun making a paint can dance. Sure I miss, but even when I miss there is a gratifying thump and spray of sand.

I managed to hit myself in the temple with a riccochet from a .38 at 15 yards shooting at something I shouldn't have been shooting at. Scared me, but enough force had gone out of the round before it boomeranged back on me. Raised a welt but for someone stubborn as a mule and....more.

Pleased to meet the acquaintance of someone else just as stubborn.

259 posted on 01/29/2006 4:07:49 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend oneself against harm.)
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To: DTogo
I'd keep the Beretta, unless they're coming out with an new/accurate .45 design.

Beretta makes a pretty good .45, the 8045 Cougar. I've got one and I love it.

263 posted on 01/29/2006 4:11:17 PM PST by Washi
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To: DTogo; John Jorsett
When my husband was in Officer Basic, the range sergeant said the same thing.

My husband picked up the 1911 and put five in the black. Made the sgt apoplectic. (He didn't know that my hubby was on his college rifle and pistol team and one of the starters . . . )

274 posted on 01/29/2006 4:26:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: DTogo
Last time I fired an M1911 .45 I couldn't have killed myself with a shot to the temple it was so inaccurate.

Maybe you should try to work in a little range time. 1911A1 variants are the race gun of choice for IDPA matches. What I'm getting at is, the design isn't inherently inaccurate.

331 posted on 01/29/2006 5:58:38 PM PST by Oberon (As a matter of fact I DO want fries with that.)
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