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(Vanity)Tech question for Win98(Vanity)
01/01/2006 | me

Posted on 01/01/2006 9:14:27 PM PST by birbear

This may, in fact, be a stupid question.

What's the easiest way to delete a whole hard drive of files with Windows 98. And is there a way to do it without wiping out Windows 98 itself.


I'm afraid I don't know the specifics. My mom's neighbor wants to get rid of her old machine, but she doesn't want the new people to have any of her old files. What's the quickest and easiest way to do that?

Thanks Freepers!


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1 posted on 01/01/2006 9:14:27 PM PST by birbear
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If you have the Win98 OS do a complete reformat.


2 posted on 01/01/2006 9:15:37 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: birbear

Format usually works very well...except for that whole "wipe out Win98 itself" thing.


3 posted on 01/01/2006 9:16:12 PM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: birbear

Complete format of the hard drive.


4 posted on 01/01/2006 9:16:26 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: birbear

Reformat and reload win 98


5 posted on 01/01/2006 9:17:01 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: birbear

The only way to insure that the files can never be recovered is to do a complete re-format and then a re-install of the operating system (Win98).


6 posted on 01/01/2006 9:17:11 PM PST by technomage
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To: birbear

I presume she just doesn't want anyone to have her personal files.

I just cleaned up a machine in my office that I was leaving to the next user. I deleted all my word processing files, and anything else that was personal. I'm not paranoid, so I didn't use one of those programs that scrubs deleted files so they can't be recovered, but it can be done.

The only problem with that is that you have to know what's on your machine. It would be hard for an outsider to do the cleaning up.

If she has all the windows installation disks, the alternative would be to FORMAT C: and reinstall the operating system. But I always hesitate to do that unless I'm sure I have everything I need, such as the windows disk cover that has the Windows ID code on it. Without that, you can't reinstall Win98 unless you're a hacker.


7 posted on 01/01/2006 9:19:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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but she doesn't want the new people to have any of her old files.

New people? What new people?

Your mom is giving away her old computer? Why, that's sacreligious!

8 posted on 01/01/2006 9:20:59 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Cicero
Windoze/M$ hides all sorts of cr@p.

You have to go find all the IE caches, Registry entries, etc. which are hidden and delete them. I've bought all sorts of used hard drives that still had personal stuff on them even though the obvious files had been deleted. In addition one has to run a program to write over the deleted files to make them unrecoverable.

9 posted on 01/01/2006 9:25:36 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: birbear

When I give away old machines, I use a utility that reformats the drive then proceeds to write specific 1s and 0s patterns over all sectors. It repeats the process a few times. DoD security levels.


10 posted on 01/01/2006 9:26:48 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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If you have the Windows 98 OS disk or CD, all you have to do is reboot your computer with the CD in, and it'll take you through the reformatting.

If you no longer have the Windows 98 operating system, you can easily buy one on ebay for around $40.

My advice for you is to upgrade to Windows XP Professional. You can also buy an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) disk for around $100 on ebay.

11 posted on 01/01/2006 9:30:59 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just boot to a command prompt and type format c:

I seem to remember that f8 will take you to a prompt. The data can still be retrieved, but it isn't easy.


12 posted on 01/01/2006 9:32:10 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Paladin2

True. That's why I regularly delete all the temp files and cleanse the Registry, and also why I never save anything like a credit card number that I wouldn't want to get loose. Other than that, I don't really have anything on my computers that I wouldn't want people to see.

If I had some sort of criminal records it would be different. But other than taking precautions to avoid identity theft, I don't really worry about it.

I agree; if this lady is paranoid, or has real secrets, or doesn't know who the buyer is, then she should at least delete and reinstall the whole operating system. But even that isn't enough if you're talking about vital secrets and the possibility that a computer expert will get hold of the hard drive. If you are bill or hillary clinton, then you want to destroy the hard drive with a blow torch or a sledge hammer before you put the machine out in the garbage.


13 posted on 01/01/2006 9:32:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: birbear

I don't know what your situation is, but Win 98 is very unstable. You can download programs to wipe your hard drive clean for free and buy Win ME or Win XP very cheap. They are much more stable than 98


14 posted on 01/01/2006 9:33:55 PM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: birbear

It is extremely difficult if not impossible to remove all traces of user files from a Win95 system whilst retaining the OS itself, and as a consequence is rarely attempted. The easiest way for a "noobie" to wipe the contents of a hard drive clean in preparation for a new system install is to use the various utility floppies or CD that comes with a new hard drive. Maxtor and other popular brands come with such a utility disk, and they can usually be used with brands other than intended. Simply "boot" the utility disk and follow the instructions for a "low level format". That will wipe out all old data on the drive and leave it in a state ready for reinstalling windows or another operating system like linux from scratch.


15 posted on 01/01/2006 9:34:44 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: birbear

fdisk


16 posted on 01/01/2006 9:44:13 PM PST by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: birbear
Easy .... keep your brother away from all those porn sites.
Good luck.
17 posted on 01/01/2006 9:49:58 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: birbear

format won't do jack.

You need to format it and then use a hard drive scrubbing program. You can get some that boot from floppy disks. Run it several times (or as recommended by the author of hte program).

Then reinstall windows on the clean hard drive. If you rely on formatting alone, you could be in for surprises. And if you rely on just deleting files, don't count on any type of security.


18 posted on 01/01/2006 9:51:53 PM PST by flashbunny
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To: SpaceBar

Try this, then load Windows afresh.

This will make any and all data on the disk unrecoverable, including the operating system.

http://dban.sourceforge.net/


19 posted on 01/01/2006 9:53:16 PM PST by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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To: birbear

The absolute best way is to purchase Norton Utilities and use the utility called "Norton Wipe". After you delete all the files, tell "Norton Wipe" to wipe only the blank spaces on the hard drive. A simple one pass wipe will probably do the trick, however depending upon how paranoid she is, you can tell it to do a "Government Wipe" which will do several passes of the blank spaces and completely obliterate the information. This is the program that Ollie North should have used. He would have never gotten caught if he had and we could have avoided the Iran Contra scandal. Most of what they got him on, they retrieved from hard drives that he thought he had deleted.

Wiping only the blank spaces will leave your Win98 intact.

Happy New Year!!!


20 posted on 01/01/2006 9:55:39 PM PST by gooleyman ( What about the baby's "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"?????? I bet the baby would chose LIFE.)
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