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Groundbreaking Book: Science Shows Man Not an Ape

Posted on 12/21/2005 6:22:46 AM PST by truthfinder9

One of biggest paradigm shifts in origins in recent years is when genetics and morphological studies began to show that Neanderthals and humans weren’t related. Sure, a lot of Darwin Fundies around here don’t know that because they get all of their science from the talking point lists of their Fundamentalist Leaders. So this is probably a big shock too, science is also showing that man is not related to any hominids including apes.

In the groundbreaking book, Who was Adam?, biochemist Fazale Rana examines the scientific research that is overturning Darwinian Fundamentalism. Here, using peer-reviewed research that the Darwin Fundies claim doesn’t exist, Rana shows man is unique and designed.

And he details the latest findings on the fossil record, junk DNA, Neanderthals, human and chimp genetics. There's more science here than most Darwin Fundies have ever read, but this will be the next great paradigm shift.

“The parallels between Genesis and the latest scientific data are profound...” - John A. Bloom, Ph.D., professor of physics, Biola University

On Rana’s previous book, Origins of Life:

“Evolution has just been dealt its deathblow. After reading Origins of Life, it is clear that evolution could not have occurred.” - Richard Smalley, Nobel Laureate, Chemistry, 1996, professor of physics and astronomy, Rice University

Real science by real scientists. According to Darwin Fundies this doesn't exist, but here it is.


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To: mlc9852

I believe in special creation. I think an objective view of the evidence supports it.

I think the initial creation was of far fewer species than we see today, with much greater genetic diversity, and the many species we see today are the result of isolation and inbreeding and population genetics.


241 posted on 12/21/2005 8:18:38 AM PST by frgoff
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To: truthfinder9

Chimpanzees and men share 95 percent of their DNA. Species is a social construct!


242 posted on 12/21/2005 8:19:19 AM PST by A. Pole (Chimpanzees and men share 95 percent of their DNA. Species is a social construct!)
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To: truthfinder9

Anyone who thinks man evolved from apes is brain dead.


243 posted on 12/21/2005 8:19:55 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: fish hawk
By the way, Merry Christmas.

And a Hoppy News Year's back at ya!

(Robt raises beer in toast to FR...)

244 posted on 12/21/2005 8:21:00 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: narby

Actually, that would be presuming that Gen 1:1 is included in the first day. A friend, who knows Hebrew, told me many years ago, that there is a change in tense and meaning of the words used for create and make between verse one and two. It indicates that verse one is a creation of something new, never before created; where verse two is a word that indicates remaking, or fixing up. That is not too much of a stretch in the interpretation of the Bible and considering how Ussher arrived at his chronology, I see nothing inconsistent with it. Usshers Chronology is weak at best, IMO, as he presumed a direct father to son descent. The time period between The creation account and the Flood is very specific but beyond that, there is room for error. Since the BIBLE doesn't state when the Earth was created I don't see and problem with accepting an old Earth.


245 posted on 12/21/2005 8:22:26 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"But I find it interesting that a number of responses are emphasizing the Darwin Fundy insult and not trying to address the subject matter."

Exactly, they can dish it out, but can't take it

246 posted on 12/21/2005 8:22:44 AM PST by Texans
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To: Publius6961

No, you are bringing up the same poiunt: NEITHER side should resort to name-calling and insults.

BUT - you've also got to realize that much of the "debate" can't be "argued" logically, because it is a matter of faith and morals. (Which is why adults are "converted" when they change religions, not "voted" or "debated" or "persuaded" when they change religions.)


247 posted on 12/21/2005 8:24:06 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Irrelevant to the point, which is that using the argument "We didn't descend from apes" to say "I am smart and you are stupid." is deceptive sophsitry.


248 posted on 12/21/2005 8:25:22 AM PST by frgoff
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To: A. Pole
Chimpanzees and men share 95 percent of their DNA

And only about 1% of their capabilities. (give or take a few tenths);^)

249 posted on 12/21/2005 8:25:51 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I'd like to know how something can be "related" to another biologically without in some way "descending" from it.

A brother is related to his sister but he did not descend from her.

250 posted on 12/21/2005 8:26:07 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: truthfinder9

LOL...great to see a book out on this topic. Because the left can't find a link between ape and man they've now decided to look off this earth to explain where we came from.


251 posted on 12/21/2005 8:27:27 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: add925

But I don't claim that my opinions and conjectures are FACT.


252 posted on 12/21/2005 8:29:49 AM PST by newcats
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To: metmom
He created animals first; then He created man, male and female, in His image.

Which is exactly what science tells us, that humans evolved from other animals that had existed before us. It's simply bad theology, however, to presuppose that God has to have ten fingers and ten toes just because we exist in His image. It's a much more profound question than you'd get from a superliteral reading.

There are no other animals that I know of that have the moral sense and self-awareness that man does.

Agreed. God gave us a soul, but our bodies and mind evolved naturally. I just don't see a conflict.

253 posted on 12/21/2005 8:31:13 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: fish hawk
God said: Darwin said: I'm always amazed at how many choose Darwin.

Actually, there are few, if any, Darwin quotes on these threads.

ML/NJ

254 posted on 12/21/2005 8:31:25 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: sono

No, just Teddy Kennedy


255 posted on 12/21/2005 8:31:39 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: narby

It's interesting watching folks pretend to science literacy without offending the YECs.

256 posted on 12/21/2005 8:36:38 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: pawdoggie
...the ID debate detracts from our ability to make the points that need to be made in the War on Terror: "why should anyone believe you, you think the earth is 6,000 years old?" We don't need to have this debate at this moment in time. GIVE IT A REST, okay?

Well, gee. I guess that rules out the debates over Amtrak funding, Colorado River watershed rights, the EPA's new soot emissions standards, and my nephew's selection for his piano recital too.

Then again, we're adults. And most of us can handle more than one thought at a time.

257 posted on 12/21/2005 8:37:32 AM PST by atlaw
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To: JustDoItAlways

>>>Funny how Neanderthals look almost exactly like us but we are not related?

You would have to say that we are, in fact, cousins. >>>

Oh no doubt we are related, that is I think common sense. The same way our german shephard is related to a siberian wolf.


258 posted on 12/21/2005 8:38:57 AM PST by sandbar
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To: ml/nj
"Actually, there are few, if any, Darwin quotes on these threads."

That is because contrary to popular belief we don't actually worship the guy. It's a much stronger argument to allow the evidence to speak then to rely on appeals to authority.
259 posted on 12/21/2005 8:43:30 AM PST by ndt
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To: Vaquero
"the trick is to understand that evolution is an ongoing process. Men and Apes evolved from ape like ancestors, which should probably also be called apes. Those apes do not exist in the form they did way back when. We are closer to Chimps than to other apes. Now chimps have split into 2 different subspecies...chimps and bonobos, with bonobos being the closest to us."

Hmmmm....interesting. Wouldn't it be something if, as the decades pass, man evolves back into apes?

260 posted on 12/21/2005 8:43:40 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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