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Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
www.newsmax.com ^ | Dec. 13, 2005 | newsmax.com

Posted on 12/13/2005 9:23:22 PM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly

Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'

"Hanoi Jane" Fonda is claiming that ever since Vietnam, U.S. troops have been trained to commit atrocities against innocent civilians as a matter of military policy.

"Starting with the Vietnam War we began training soldiers differently," the anti-American actress says in an email to the Washington Post.

Fonda claims she learned of the policy switch in "secret meetings" she had with military psychologists "who were really worried about what was happening to our combat personnel."

One doctor, she insists, told her U.S. troops had been deliberately trained to be "killing machines."

"This began," Fonda maintained, "because the military discovered that in World War II and Korea, [U.S.] soldiers weren't killing enough."

"So they changed training procedures" to teach troops how to commit atrocities.

Still, the anti-war gadfly cautions, it's important not to blame the soldiers themselves for carrying out war crimes.

Recalling the "Winter Soldier" hearings that she and John Kerry staged in 1971, Fonda lamented: "When you put young people into an atrocity-producing situation where enemy and civilian are commingled, where the 'other side' is dehumanized, we cannot be surprised."

Anti-war vets now returning from Iraq, Fonda cautioned, should be listened to instead of being dismissed as "unpatriotic."

"We have not learned the lessons of Vietnam," she declared.


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To: sageb1
"She should have been charged with treason years ago."

True. But now, she should simply be committed.

That is the same thing I thought as soon as I read this! She doesn't tell us that the doctor was her psychiatrist. I can't believe these people are given as much press time as they are. What jerks.

221 posted on 12/14/2005 5:38:46 PM PST by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army - opinions are my own.)
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To: RHINO369
where did you get your figures from about more soldiers in WWII than Germany? they had around 4 million more than we did. Not a big deal, I guess, but as a soldier myself.....

As far as having a "less terrible leader"- what are you saying with that statement? Our leaders (Roosevel and Truman) were great men by any standard, especially compared to Hitler, Hirohito, and Stalin.

222 posted on 12/14/2005 6:06:39 PM PST by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army - opinions are my own.)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Jane Commie Fonda has been having "secret meetings" with the voices in her head again. But she gets more publicity from the leftmedia than most schizos.

Her money makes her even more dangerous than her mouth.


223 posted on 12/14/2005 6:28:25 PM PST by La Enchiladita (What Child is this, who laid to rest in Mary's arms, is sleeping ....?)
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To: Gucho
Fonda & Kerry should be very happy their goal in the radical 1960's remains in force. North & South Vietnam remains communist controlled to this day!
225 posted on 12/14/2005 7:14:08 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
This began," Fonda maintained, "because the military discovered that in World War II and Korea, [U.S.] soldiers weren't killing enough."

This is actually true. Many soldiers did not or rarely fired their weapons in combat. Turned out that leaders and soldiers with specialized weapons or crew-served weapons fired a lot more and further, that often all it took to get a soldier started was a leader to personally direct him to fire. As a result, the military reorganized the squad into fire teams in order to increase the "leader to led" ratio and introduced more weapons such as grenade launchers and automatic rifles/light machine-guns. The idea was that soldiers would feel more of an individual purpose or responsibility to the rest of the squad and were therefore more likely to engage the enemy than "Hey, I'm just a rifleman--I'll just keep my head down and wait this out."

226 posted on 12/14/2005 7:22:44 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: M. Espinola

Yep, communist Vietnam has the utmost praise for traitors hanoi jane & skerry.


227 posted on 12/14/2005 7:53:18 PM PST by Gucho
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All

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Today on Talk Radio http://www.Newsmax.com 's CARL LIMBACHER informed us that JANE FONDA financed the JOHN KERRY New Soldiers Activities that led to his going before Congress to call us American Soldiers fighting for Freedom in South Vietnam ...

...rapists & terrrorists who cut off heads & ears.

NUTS

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228 posted on 12/14/2005 8:54:26 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'

Well.... So what's your point???

229 posted on 12/14/2005 8:58:42 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Thanks, Jane. We do try, good to see it doesn't go unnoticed.


230 posted on 12/14/2005 8:59:34 PM PST by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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To: wardaddy; river rat; Travis McGee; TEXASPROUD; hiredhand; Dashing Dasher; Rennes Templar

I'm not Fonda cunning runts publicity stunts that dis the grunts.........doom on her !


231 posted on 12/14/2005 9:02:37 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

You're darn right, Hanoi Jane. And, I mean that in a very, very good way. Killing machines: fear us, our enemies.


232 posted on 12/14/2005 9:04:08 PM PST by BlackjackPershing ("Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers." John Jay)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'

Jane: They are when they have to be, you ignorant, arrogant, foolish woman! Right now they are killing evil people who would very much like to kill YOU. When they're not busy doing that, they are re-building a very broken country, and teaching people about freedom. Most of those people have never known it before. They only knew pain and fear before we showed up, but that is of no consequence to fools such as yourself. Do yourself a favor. Shut your mouth before someone does it for you. Many have not forgotten what you did to our guys in another war.

233 posted on 12/14/2005 9:04:12 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

I have a "no violence / no threats" filter in my conscience.


I have no further comment on Fonda at this time.


234 posted on 12/14/2005 9:06:00 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RouxStir
Jane, Jane! These men in white coats were not "military psychologists". They were the doctors who were trying, in vain, to get you back from a bad LSD trip

You're good.

235 posted on 12/14/2005 9:07:01 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: wardaddy

That woman is every horrible gutter-name you can imagine. She is NOTHING but garbage. N*O*T*H*I*N*G but.


236 posted on 12/14/2005 9:09:26 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

"Dear Hanoi Jane"

OK, fine; you vile, treasonous, skank, bitch.

If I live longer than you do, I was already going to pi$$ on your grave. Now I'm going to have to sh!t on it.

Believe me, you treasonous skank, there will be chartered buses.

We won't forget.


237 posted on 12/14/2005 9:20:44 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ( "Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Squantos
Fonda is one bitch that has far outlived any possible justification to waste oxygen.....

It'll be nice to hear the bitch has died, or killed herself...

Unless she visits the Wall on the Mall and asks forgiveness from the men enshrined there -- her afterlife is gonna be one REALLY bad trip.....

Semper Fi
238 posted on 12/14/2005 9:21:53 PM PST by river rat
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Darn, I must have missed something in basic and AIT, we were taught how to kill, which is what soldiers do, but I must have missed the classes on how to commit atrocities.


239 posted on 12/14/2005 9:24:40 PM PST by DaiHuy (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: stylecouncilor

I knew her so-called apology for her Vietnam miscreance was empty.


240 posted on 12/14/2005 11:26:20 PM PST by onedoug
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