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(Bush Speech Live Thread) Bush to compare Iraqis to America's founders
CNN ^ | 12/12/05 | Unknown

Posted on 12/12/2005 6:09:11 AM PST by Coop

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is using a visit to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, birthplace of the U.S. Constitution, as a reminder before the Iraqi elections that the path to American democracy was not always easy either.

Pennsylvania also is the home state of a leading Iraq war critic, Democratic Rep. John Murtha, who planned to speak on Bush's heels and repeat his call to bring the troops home from a fight he says has become too violent and out of control...

Iraqis are preparing to vote under tight security to elect a 275-member parliament that will run the country for the next four years. The election will be the first under the new constitution ratified in an October 15 referendum and will complete the steps toward democratization following the ouster of Saddam Hussein's government.

Monday's Iraq speech is Bush's third, part of a campaign to win support for the mission, with most Americans saying in polls that they disapprove of his handling of the war. The speech is scheduled for 11:15 a.m. ET.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush43; elections; foundingfathers; gnfi; iraq; iraqielection; iraqspeech; terrorism
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To: Mo1

LOL! I forget what it was but it sounded like at least 8 or 9 letters.


241 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:13 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: prairiebreeze
American soldiers are worth a lot more than Iraqi *hit".

Yeah that's real special especially coming from someone that doesn't give a $h!t about American Soldiers unless it provides a talking point to bash the Administration with. The left only wants the troops home so they can spit on them. Again.

242 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:16 AM PST by ichabod1 (The left only wants the troops home so they can spit on them. Again.)
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To: Fishtalk

Because WMD's were not the only reason he decided to take down Saddam. There were lots of other reasons. The media and the dems made WMD's the ONLY reason...wrong of them (again)


243 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:22 AM PST by arbee4bush (Our Airman Daughter KB4W--Hero, Patriot and the Love of her mom & dads life!)
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To: Mo1

WOW - this Q&A session was the BEST President Bush has ever ever been - in my opinion.

INCREDIBLE PASSION - turn this man loose in just this manner

WOW


244 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:29 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Fishtalk
Bush is giving the politically correct answer but damn just once I'd like to hear him state that there WERE connections between Saddam and Al-Queda. Then list them.

This is a great mystery and one I'd love to have answered. I do NOT get it.

245 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:35 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: NeonKnight

Now they say that Bush is sticking "doggedly" to a specified timetable regardless of how things are really going. Schummer complained last week that the Iraqi people were being "forced" into this election against their will, and that we should have made them throw out their constitution and start again to "really" bring the nation together.

This Sunday that Washington Post had a front-page news story about how Bush is being stubborn in keeping with this plan of milestones, and used the word "doggedly".


246 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:46 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Fishtalk

There's not a soul in the entire world that can honestly say Iraq did NOT have WMDs.


247 posted on 12/12/2005 9:14:53 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Mo1

Mo1 - I walked in the house late. Where was this press conference held and who was the audience?


248 posted on 12/12/2005 9:15:21 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Carolinamom
what was his remark about Specter..

He used a 4 syllable word (peroration, I think), and then said he included it for Sen. Specter.

249 posted on 12/12/2005 9:15:24 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Fishtalk

No, I think you are misunderstanding the President's remarks. The fact is that WMD were not the only reason that was stated to go to war against Iraq, Bush was advised at the time to simplify the reasoning and that WMD was simplest most direct route to approval. It was never stated as the only reason to go to war.


250 posted on 12/12/2005 9:15:33 AM PST by Eva
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To: Carolinamom

He used a 'big' word 'for Specter'.


251 posted on 12/12/2005 9:15:43 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: cake_crumb
Sounds like you would also consider the constitutional reconstruction of Japan and Germany after WW II would be irrelevant to Iraq today. After all, both of those "occurred in another part of the world in another century."

Are you really that foolish?

John / Billybob
252 posted on 12/12/2005 9:15:45 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: freema

Wow, this speech just reminds me why he deserves to be POTUS. Even though we all doubt(ed) his capabilities at one time or another, he quickly reminds us how in control he can be. I think this is a definate turning point for the low polling numbers. I'm betting we'll be seeing a lot more vocal support for Iraq, too.

Speaking of polling numbers, did anyone see the slanted poll about how Iraqi's are favoring a US withdrawl by over 60%? I'm betting that its not a true poll, but when I went back to find the story and look at the data, it seems to have disappeared. Has anyone else done more research on this?


253 posted on 12/12/2005 9:15:45 AM PST by NorthWstPHD
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To: Jemian

No doubt about it. President Bush brought his "A" game to Philly. Great job, very inspiring.


254 posted on 12/12/2005 9:16:10 AM PST by oneofmany ("You just shot an unarmed man!"........."Well, he shoulda armed himself"--- Unforgiven)
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To: Fishtalk
Why all the debate on the WMD's if their existence didn't matter?

It was the enemy within that made it about WMD when it suited them, Fish. The President might say, "It was the terrorism, stupid."

255 posted on 12/12/2005 9:16:14 AM PST by ichabod1 (The left only wants the troops home so they can spit on them. Again.)
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To: Fishtalk
I heartily agree don't misunderstand, but won't the Dems go after him for saying that? Why all the debate on the WMD's if their existence didn't matter?

The dems will go after him not matter what

And ... if anyone listened to his speeches BEFORE the war .. WMD was not the ONLY reason we took Saddam out

The libs like Chrissy Matthews just like to tell everyone it was the only reason

256 posted on 12/12/2005 9:16:26 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Congressman Billybob; cake_crumb

CC's comment was in jest. :-)


257 posted on 12/12/2005 9:16:44 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Bahbah

I heard him say "Just trying to impress the home folks here,Senator Specter." LOL


258 posted on 12/12/2005 9:16:52 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: NorthWstPHD

Can't you come up with something a bit better? I mean, really!!


259 posted on 12/12/2005 9:17:28 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Fishtalk

My take on it was, that he was justified, with or without WMD's -that they weren't the be all and end all of the decision (as opponents would like the world to believe)


260 posted on 12/12/2005 9:17:33 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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