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(Bush Speech Live Thread) Bush to compare Iraqis to America's founders
CNN ^ | 12/12/05 | Unknown

Posted on 12/12/2005 6:09:11 AM PST by Coop

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is using a visit to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, birthplace of the U.S. Constitution, as a reminder before the Iraqi elections that the path to American democracy was not always easy either.

Pennsylvania also is the home state of a leading Iraq war critic, Democratic Rep. John Murtha, who planned to speak on Bush's heels and repeat his call to bring the troops home from a fight he says has become too violent and out of control...

Iraqis are preparing to vote under tight security to elect a 275-member parliament that will run the country for the next four years. The election will be the first under the new constitution ratified in an October 15 referendum and will complete the steps toward democratization following the ouster of Saddam Hussein's government.

Monday's Iraq speech is Bush's third, part of a campaign to win support for the mission, with most Americans saying in polls that they disapprove of his handling of the war. The speech is scheduled for 11:15 a.m. ET.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush43; elections; foundingfathers; gnfi; iraq; iraqielection; iraqspeech; terrorism
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To: billbears; All

We will accept nothing less than COMPLETE victory!


101 posted on 12/12/2005 8:26:26 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Justanobody

Iraqis are taking more territory and taking more bases over their control.


102 posted on 12/12/2005 8:27:55 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: Jemian

The political element has been guided by a clear principal. A common foundation is the rule of law, freedom of speech, a free economy and freedom of worship.


103 posted on 12/12/2005 8:28:48 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: billbears

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?


104 posted on 12/12/2005 8:29:16 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Jemian

Under Saddam these freedoms were crushed. Secret courts meted out brutal "justice."


105 posted on 12/12/2005 8:29:35 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: billbears

Well, those are both fruits. It's more like apples and kangaroos.


106 posted on 12/12/2005 8:29:52 AM PST by sheltonmac (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES)
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To: StarFan

If they get something wrong, no one can criticize you for reporting what they say.


This is an enemy without conscience..We are fighting an enemy of the American people in Iraq and we will accept nothing but complete victory. We must not leave Iraq as a haven for terrorists.

We are making steady progress..The Iraqis are taking more and more responsibility for security so we may concentrate on training.
By building a democracy in Iraq we bring hope to the region.


107 posted on 12/12/2005 8:30:16 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: ohioWfan
Thank God, that he's relating the history of ups and downs in the US .. and our rocky start and the division and enmity ... which IS analagous to Iraq.

I've been praying that someone would set it out there in more detail to explain just how difficult a challenge this is. Thank you, Lord ...!!! We climbed the mountain, and so can the Iraqis with our help ....

Thanks for the ping, Howlin ..

"Decades of brutal reign by Sadaam....secret courts .. Shia Muslims and other groups were brutally oppressed."

Our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor -- by Rush Limbaugh, Jr.--what our Founding Fathers gave for US

108 posted on 12/12/2005 8:30:19 AM PST by STARWISE (The liberals and terrorists belong to the same club: THE HATE AND DESTROY AMERICA CLUB.)
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To: Coop

I guess that means that the Bellevue is now a Hyatt hotel.


109 posted on 12/12/2005 8:30:51 AM PST by Eva
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To: billbears

This speech is about Iraq--not a history of democracy. For most people, citing Philadelphia as the "birthplace" of democracy works just fine. Bush is painting a broad picture of democracy: getting hung up on every little detail in that picture is to lose sight of the forest for the trees.


110 posted on 12/12/2005 8:30:53 AM PST by milagro
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To: Coop

;)


111 posted on 12/12/2005 8:32:17 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: billbears; Mo1
If you REALLY want to go back to democracy's roots, bill, you need to go all the way back to creation, when God made the first man and woman with the desire in their hearts to be free (the same God who gave John Locke his mind.....the same God who led the Pilgrims to create the Mayflower Compact).

btw, you know what Mo meant about Philadelphia, so stop being difficult for the sake of being difficult....

112 posted on 12/12/2005 8:32:18 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie

This Administration knows far more about politics than you or I.

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Kind of amazing how a certain handful of Freepers spend all their time lecturing the Administration on what to do here on Free Republic. How about all the "experts" spend their time writing their advice to the White House instead of posting it a few thousand times a day here on Free Republic? A letter to the White House MIGHT be read by someone who can ACTUALLY do something. Writing it here over and is just wasting bandwith.

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Ding ding ding! We have a winner (not just cuz your a friend o' mine).

Preaching to the choir is not enough!

president@whitehouse.gov

comments@whitehouse.gov


113 posted on 12/12/2005 8:32:45 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
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To: MEG33

We adjusted our approach to what the Iraqi people wanted. Four milestones guide the transitions. Transfer of government, free elections in Jan 2005, adoption of Iraqi constitution in Oct. 2005, the fourth is the election on the 15th.


114 posted on 12/12/2005 8:32:51 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: Jemian

President Bush has noted that all the milestones and deadlines have been met.


115 posted on 12/12/2005 8:33:31 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: Jemian

LOVE you tagline!


116 posted on 12/12/2005 8:34:03 AM PST by milagro
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To: Jemian

Sunnis saw their failure to participate in elections caused them to have few seats.


117 posted on 12/12/2005 8:34:50 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: milagro

Thank you, Sgt. Howser called in to Laura Ingrahm on Friday and asked her to convey that message to his wife and daughter.


118 posted on 12/12/2005 8:34:51 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: Eva
I guess that means that the Bellevue is now a Hyatt hotel.

I wasn't sure what the heck that meant. :-)

119 posted on 12/12/2005 8:34:52 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Jemian

Choking om my tears. God bless him, and his family.


120 posted on 12/12/2005 8:35:58 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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