(Bush Speech Live Thread) Bush to compare Iraqis to America's founders

CNN ^ | 12/12/05 | Unknown

[Coop]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is using a visit to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, birthplace of the U.S. Constitution, as a reminder before the Iraqi elections that the path to American democracy was not always easy either.

Pennsylvania also is the home state of a leading Iraq war critic, Democratic Rep. John Murtha, who planned to speak on Bush's heels and repeat his call to bring the troops home from a fight he says has become too violent and out of control...

Iraqis are preparing to vote under tight security to elect a 275-member parliament that will run the country for the next four years. The election will be the first under the new constitution ratified in an October 15 referendum and will complete the steps toward democratization following the ouster of Saddam Hussein's government.

Monday's Iraq speech is Bush's third, part of a campaign to win support for the mission, with most Americans saying in polls that they disapprove of his handling of the war. The speech is scheduled for 11:15 a.m. ET.

[tiredoflaundry]

The President in is the house

BTTT

[Coop]

Cue the orchestra!

[Eagle of Liberty]

War, too violent and out of control. Go figure. I thought, like it was a fun day at the beach or something.

Hey Murtha, FYI

Basic Military Objectives:

1) Kill people
2) Break things
3) Make enemy surrender

[Mo1]

We will fight this war without wavering and we will not fail

[Christian4Bush]

I believe I heard Fox report that Murtha will deliver the "response" to the President's speech.

It's too bad that there can't be a response to the response...

[cake_crumb]

"Bush is a fool if this is what he intends to do.....there is NO comparison, not even in the same ball park!"

Yeah, what comparison can be made between two different groups in two different centuries on two different sides of the world developing a constitution and a system of voting in order to achieve representative government?

[Coop]

[giggle]

Good one.

[Mo1]

The heart of Philadelphia .. the city were democracy was started

[Coop]

Also the birthplace of the U.S. Marine Corps! But I digress...

[ohioWfan]

NO comparison? None at all?

If the Iraqis achieve a free and democrat nation free from tyranny, is that not a comparison?

[cake_crumb]

"A 'too vioulent' fight which would eventually be taking place in our streets it Mr. Murtha gets his way"

When is fighting 'too volent', anyhow? Does he honestly think it's possible for both parties to fight withought touching or even talking at each other?

[StarFan]

I wonder if Murtha will hold a press conference after the president's speech

Good question. I heard he was slated to give a rebuttal for either the State of the Union Address or something similar but the party decided to go with someone else. But don't go by me as I clearly heard foxnews state SEVERAL TIMES yesterday that Arnold will announce his decision on Tookie at 3:00 p.m. today. I shared that info. and now not a peep out of fox which leaves my credibility in question.

[Just A Nobody]

Go to the polls for the third time THIS year.

[MEG33]

I like that he is reminding us about the difficulties we also had as a nation in coming together.

[Coop]

I like that he is reminding us about the difficulties we also had as a nation in coming together.

Stop it! There's NO comparison!! [wheeze, pant]

:-p

[Mo1]

Also the birthplace of the U.S. Marine Corps!

A great bunch of folks too!

And I'm thankful they are our side .. You don't mess with Marines .. my one brother is one (retired after 26 years of service)

I gotta head out .. but I have the VCR running

[billbears]

The heart of Philadelphia .. the city were democracy was started

In whose world exactly? The framework for a republic was laid for close to 500 years prior to the Constitutional Convention. John Locke anyone? Was he writing from Philadelphia and we just didn't know it? Constitutional government in England, late 17th century? Magna Carta? Sigh...I would bother but it's just not worth it.

[Coop]

D'oh! But you were doing such a great job keeping us updated.

Oh well, thanks and have a good trip.

[Jemian]

"this is an enemy w/o conscience and they cannot be appeased. We are confronting a direct threat to the American people and we will not accept anything but complete victory." Applause to that line.

[roses of sharon]

Yes, remember that for the DNC/MSM, history begins when they wake up in the morning.

And whichever way they wish to craft history's script.