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Is It Treason Yet?
GOP USA ^ | 12-09-05 | Joe Mariani - Commentary

Posted on 12/08/2005 7:56:07 PM PST by smoothsailing

Is It Treason Yet?

By Joe Mariani

December 9, 2005

Treason is defined, in part, as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemies of the United States, according to the Constitution (Article III, Section 3) (web site) and the United States Code (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, Section 2381). (web site) Yet the Constitution also states, in the First Amendment, (web site) that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech." How do we distinguish between free speech and treason? Where do we draw the line? The answer may be found using that least-used resource: common sense.

I would submit that the elected leaders of this country have more responsibility than the rest of us to ensure that they give no aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. With American troops risking their lives in daily battle on behalf of the nation, critical words from those in leadership positions carry greater weight than in peacetime, both with the enemy and with our own troops.

Yet the leaders of the Democratic Party consistently attack the war in Iraq with lies, from distorting the history of our confrontation with Saddam Hussein, (web site) to prevaricating about their own statements which led us to war, (web site) to defaming the character of every member of the Bush administration in turn. Worst of all, however, is the slander they spread about our troops.

The Chairman of the Democratic party, Howard Dean, said during a radio interview on 6 December (web site) that the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong." Does this statement not give "aid and comfort" to the enemy? The leader of a major political party, to which nearly half of all Americans belong, is telling the terrorists and insurgents in Iraq that they will win; that they will beat the United States.

Dean also said that, "this is the same situation we had in Vietnam," and in a certain sense, he's right. The beaten, demoralized North Vietnamese leadership was given new hope by certain American politicians and the press, to the point where they struggled on until America's liberals turned public opinion against the war. America was forced to withdraw from Vietnam in disgrace, having never lost a battle, by people just like Howard Dean. With his defeatist statements, Dean is giving our enemies the aid and comfort they need to keep fighting. How many Americans will die because of Dean's irresponsible remarks, made only to seek political advantage? Tell me why that's not treason.

Senator John Kerry (D-MA), the Democratic Party's most recent Presidential candidate, appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation" on 4 December (web site) to deface the American military. Speaking to interviewer Bob Schieffer, Kerry said that "there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the -- of -- the historical customs, religious customs." (And some people accuse GW Bush of being incoherent?) .

Does a United States Senator and former Presidential candidate accusing American soldiers of terrorizing women and children in the dead of night not give aid and comfort to the enemy? Just as he did during Vietnam, (web site) John Kerry is falsely accusing American troops of committing atrocities as a matter of normal course in an attempt to undermine support for the war among Americans. As a consequence -- intended or not -- he is yet again handing America's enemies an immense propaganda victory. How many potential terrorists will have their hatred of Americans fueled by Kerry's matter-of-fact statement that American soldiers are terrorising women and children in their homes at night, breaking cultural and religious taboos? Tell me why that's not treason.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) fully supports and endorses the recent statements of Representative John Murtha (D-PA), the ranking Democrat on the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee. Murtha has made a big splash among the anti-war faction by calling for an immediate -- within six months -- pullout from Iraq. On 1 December, Murtha told a group of leading Pennsylvania citizens (web site) that America would be forced to abandon Iraq within a year because the troops are "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth." Murtha is hailed as a hero in the media for suddenly changing his mind about the war in Iraq, but called it "unwinnable" and stated that "we cannot prevail... with the policy we have today," while urging President Bush to send even more troops in May 2004. (web site)

What a burst of enthusiasm Murtha's words must have engendered among our enemies! How much hope will they take from his proclamation that they are, in fact, winning the war? Despite fantastic losses, and despite earning the enmity of the Iraqi people, the terrorists and Saddam supporters in Iraq can now believe that if they just find the strength to hold on a little longer, they can push the hated United States out of Iraq. How many of the enemy will fight rather than surrender, because Pelosi and Murtha have told them they're winning? How does that not give the enemy aid and comfort? Is that not treason?

Not all Democrats follow the defeatist, destructive path of their leaders. But those ARE their leaders -- the Chairman of their party, their most recent Presidential candidate, their party leader in the House of Representatives. Some Democrat politicians have repudiated the statements of Dean, Kerry, Pelosi, Murtha and the rest... not because those remarks were vile, untrue and treasonous, but because the Democrats are afraid such openly anti-American statements might "harm efforts to win control of Congress next year," according to the Washington Post. (web site) The only way they can regain power is to hide their true feelings, and they know it. Treason, it seems, is still considered malapropos by some Democrats.

But not all.

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Joe Mariani is a computer consultant born and raised in New Jersey. He now lives in Pennsylvania, where the gun laws are less restrictive and taxes are lower. Joe always thought of himself as politically neutral until he saw how far left the left had really gone after 9/11. His essays and links to articles are available at http://www.guardianwatchblog.com/

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Note -- The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, and/or philosophy of GOPUSA.

NOTE: All (website) notations can be accessed by going to the GOP USA link at the top of this article-smoothsailing


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aidandcomfort; chairmandean; collaborators; cutandrun; dhpl; dnc; enemywithin; hangemhigh; murtha; patriotleak; pelosi; saboteurs; sedition; treason
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To: Joe Brower; Leatherneck_MT
Of course it's treason, see my post #20.
241 posted on 12/09/2005 10:36:05 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks! I got the ad by e-mail from the GOP this morning. It is a powerful presentation and I'm pleased the GOP is fighting back.They must pursue this, I hope it shows up here locally on tv.
242 posted on 12/09/2005 11:12:54 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Sedition is the way to go after them, like Lincoln did against the a$$hole congressits during the Civil War.


243 posted on 12/09/2005 11:15:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: cricket

Are you saying, 'go get 'em!"?


244 posted on 12/09/2005 11:57:30 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: Grampa Dave
Sedition is a start, I believe it can mean 20 years hard time.I look forward to the trials.
245 posted on 12/09/2005 12:22:31 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: wolf24

PING...worth your entertainment


246 posted on 12/09/2005 12:25:49 PM PST by PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower
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To: smoothsailing

Check it out.
http://www.aljazeera.com/


247 posted on 12/09/2005 12:36:14 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: freema
Not much different from CBS,NBC,ABC,CNN,MSNBC,NYT,WP,etc.
248 posted on 12/09/2005 12:55:52 PM PST by smoothsailing (Nam Vet-68-69)
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To: smoothsailing
Does a United States Senator and former Presidential candidate accusing American soldiers of terrorizing women and children in the dead of night not give aid and comfort to the enemy? Just as he did during Vietnam, (web site) John Kerry is falsely accusing American troops of committing atrocities as a matter of normal course in an attempt to undermine support for the war among Americans. As a consequence -- intended or not -- he is yet again handing America's enemies an immense propaganda victory. How many potential terrorists will have their hatred of Americans fueled by Kerry's matter-of-fact statement that American soldiers are terrorising women and children in their homes at night, breaking cultural and religious taboos? Tell me why that's not treason.

Is it treason yet????? IMHO, yes it is and Kerry should be charged!!!!!!!!!!!! When Kerry slanders other politicians that's one thing, BUT, when he slanders our fighting men and women who are in a war zone, that's a whole nother thing..... What he said is way over the top...

249 posted on 12/09/2005 1:01:45 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: eeriegeno
Yep, it's treason.
250 posted on 12/09/2005 1:09:38 PM PST by smoothsailing (Nam Vet-68-69--NEVER FORGET)
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To: Travis McGee
"Wall. Blindfold. Cigarette."

Darnit, Matt, you're more generous than I am. Don't go wasting a perfectly good smoke!

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

251 posted on 12/09/2005 2:13:30 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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save


252 posted on 12/09/2005 2:16:31 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: smoothsailing
Sedition? Maybe not.
se·di·tion
Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state.
Insurrection; rebellion.

trea·son
Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Treason it is.
253 posted on 12/09/2005 2:23:55 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Roscoe Karns
Thanks, baby.

Veddy, veddy funny.

Kissy,

Bertha

P.S. Merry Christmas

254 posted on 12/09/2005 3:13:44 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - A consumption tax which replaces the income tax, SS tax, death tax, etc.)
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To: teenyelliott
Pinging to No. 11.

Pinging to No. 11.

I repeat, pinging to No. 11.

255 posted on 12/09/2005 3:15:22 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - A consumption tax which replaces the income tax, SS tax, death tax, etc.)
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To: Calpernia
Are you really or was it pun?

This was an inside joke with LUV W. When I first brushed into her on the forum, I thought she was a man. So, in a joke she calls me a lady, when, in fact, I am a man. It would be difficult for me to get pregnant.

:)

256 posted on 12/09/2005 5:38:32 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Roscoe Karns
LOL!
257 posted on 12/09/2005 5:42:46 PM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: Roscoe Karns

ROTFLMAO!!!!


258 posted on 12/09/2005 6:00:12 PM PST by pattty
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To: Calpernia

Thanks very much! I read the whole thing. It can also be found here:

http://www.afgha.com/?af=article&sid=33892

I still have a hard time calling Murtha a traitor, just because he threw too much American know-how into Jihadistan after the Soviets had left. There was the soviet puppet regime in power, and the Mujahadeen weren't America's enemies then. Ignorant, short-sighted, blundering, gullible; yes. Traitor, no.

It's interesting though - the article shows how his 1990's experience might be making him very skittish about overstaying our "welcome" in the middle east, and how he could have developed a premise that we never get any credit with the muslims for helping them. We did get some credit with the Kuwaitis. There might be a little guilt in play here, too, for feeding the infant monster.


259 posted on 12/09/2005 6:11:02 PM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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To: H.Akston

>>>a little guilt in play here, too, for feeding the infant monster.

A little? Afghanistan was the training camps for Al Qaeda. That is why we cleaned out Afghanistan first. We took out the brain that left Al Qaeda as a scattered franchise. Our war with militant Islam started in 1979 when the students took the US Embassy in Iran. What Wilson, Murtha, O'Neill and whoever else was involved did with funding militant Islam is aiding an enemy. And it built them up for all that has happened since.

That sting operation was set up in AbScam because we had politicians taking bribes. It wasn't set up for no reason.

After all those politicians were caught, Torricelli (The Torch) was instrumental in closing down CIA Ops! I can't help but wonder if Clinton wouldn't have been President if The Torch didn't do that. The Torch and Clinton share some of the same financiers! (David Chang, the money launderer)

IMO, I think this is what led to Able Danger. The FBI hit on something that was such a problem, too many judges and politicians with power were sweeping what they have done and were doing under the rug, that Able Danger had to be created.

Did you see the rest of my thread? It is a bump list and not just a thread post.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489385/posts
My Enemy's Enemy by George Crile


260 posted on 12/09/2005 6:53:46 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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