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A VIEW FROM THE EYE OF THE STORM -- Armageddon In The Middle East!
ICONOCLAST ^ | by Professor Haim Harari

Posted on 11/22/2005 8:36:37 AM PST by Apolitical

Why do I put aside Israel and its own immediate neighborhood? Because Israel and any problems related to it, in spite of what you might read or hear in the world media, is not the central issue, and has never been the central issue in the upheaval in the region. Yes, there is a 100 year-old Israeli-Arab conflict, but it is not where the main show is.

The millions who died in the Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with Israel. The mass murder happening right now in Sudan, where the Arab Muslim regime is massacring its black Christian citizens, has nothing to do with Israel. The frequent reports from Algeria about the murders of hundreds of civilian in one village or another by other Algerians have nothing to do with Israel.

Saddam Hussein did not invade Kuwait, endanger Saudi Arabia and butcher his own people because of Israel. Egypt did not use poison gas against Yemen in the 60's because of Israel. Assad the Father did not kill tens of thousands of his own citizens in one week in El Hamma in Syria because of Israel.

The Taliban control of Afghanistan and the civil war there had nothing to do with Israel. The Libyan blowing up of the Pan-Am flight had nothing to do with Israel, and I could go on and on and on.

The root of the trouble is that this entire Muslim region is totally dysfunctional, by any standard of the word, and would have been so even if Israel would have joined the Arab league and an independent Palestine would have existed for 100 years....

(Excerpt) Read more at iconoclast.ca ...


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Long article; but very interesting perspective.

Maybe the hawks in the Bush administration were onto to something.

1 posted on 11/22/2005 8:36:38 AM PST by Apolitical
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To: Apolitical
What is behind the suicide murders? Money, power and cold-blooded murderous incitement, nothing else. It has nothing to do with true fanatic religious beliefs. No Muslim preacher has ever blown himself up.

He lost me with that statement. I believe it has everything to do with fanatical religious beliefs. - Tom

2 posted on 11/22/2005 8:46:42 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Apolitical

The article speaks the whole truth. Unfortunately the left has trouble grasping the truth. There is no more clear definition of what the free world is up against and the solutions than in this article.

Thanks for the link!


3 posted on 11/22/2005 8:58:26 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Capt. Tom

I think it's fanatical islam for the most part - but Haim puts his finger on the very good living that a lot of the enablers of terror get for their pains.


4 posted on 11/22/2005 9:04:37 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Apolitical

btt


5 posted on 11/22/2005 9:04:59 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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To: Apolitical

Excellent article.

Unfortunately, the Arab world has raised money laundering to a high art form through many centuries of practice.


6 posted on 11/22/2005 9:05:53 AM PST by khnyny
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To: Apolitical
"I have no better name for the present situation. A few more years may pass before everybody acknowledges that it is a World War, but we are already well into it."

It is really a crime that a majority of Americans can't see this but what are we to expect when the "left" and their dupes in the MSM politicize the "WAR" for personal and party gain.

And what a shame that the GOP leadership can't find the cajones to be just as shrill in denunciating what is going on.

I knew right after 911, as many did and postulated, that the world had changed forever and we wouldn't see the endgame of that change in our life times. I also knew the American people, united for a short time, would quickly forget and that it will take another 911 with casualties in the 10's if not 100's of thousands for the country to finally get it.

I hate it when I am right, but I had a great teaching instrument in living and serving during the RVN debacle.

7 posted on 11/22/2005 9:16:34 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Capt. Tom

He's talking about the leaders, not the footsoldiers.
They whip thier followers up into a frenzy and send them out.


8 posted on 11/22/2005 9:18:34 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Apolitical
What is behind the suicide murders? Money, power and cold-blooded murderous incitement, nothing else. It has nothing to do with true fanatic religious beliefs. No Muslim preacher has ever blown himself up.

He makes this point here but the entire rest of the article builds the case that islam is the root of all terrorism in the moslem lands.

To destroy terrorism you must destroy islam because islam commands it's followers to be terrorists

9 posted on 11/22/2005 9:19:50 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Valin
He's talking about the leaders, not the footsoldiers. They whip their followers up into a frenzy and send them out.

Some bombers might fall into that catgegory but others don't. Many of the Muslims have taken a cold blooded approach and weren't whipped into a frenzy. They read the Koran and know what God wants done.

The young men who drove those aircraft on 9-11 weren't "hot heads".

They were financially well off and had decent educations. They also had many months to think it through. Even time to make out wills.

When the time came, they did it for their God (Alla).

This is a religious driven Jihad against all infidels and their Muslim collaborators. The weapons are the sword and the Muslim wombs. - tom

10 posted on 11/22/2005 10:01:53 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: SJackson; Salem; Alouette; American in Israel; F15Eagle; Yehuda; Nachum; jabotinsky; agrace; ...

Ping!


11 posted on 11/22/2005 10:46:07 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: TexKat; Seadog Bytes; Berosus; blam; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Do not dub me shapka broham; ...
Kaboom!
12 posted on 11/22/2005 11:35:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: Apolitical; USF; jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; Former Dodger

Very interesting article.


"In the same way that no country has a law against cannibals eating its prime minister, because such an act is unthinkable, international law does not address killers shooting from hospitals, mosques and ambulances, while being protected by their Government or society. International law does not know how to handle someone who sends children to throw stones, stands behind them and shoots with immunity and cannot be arrested because he is sheltered by a Government."


13 posted on 11/22/2005 2:16:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Aussie Diggers and Marines Never Cut and Run; Cowards do!)
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To: SunkenCiv; Capt. Tom

I believe he is trying to say that the Mullahs, Imams, and Sheiks use religion for their political objectives of power and money. They use religion to manipulate others but they don't sacrifice themselves or their children in Jihad.

So while the Jihadists believe it is for the sake of Allah, the religious leaders are using religion to pull their strings.

Islam is a political system. That is why it is so dangerous. It infects all parts of life with the rule of Sharia


14 posted on 11/22/2005 2:37:00 PM PST by dervish (no excuse s)
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To: Fred Nerks
'Tis not those Jews, but the zakat that fuels terror?

Great article Fred.

Excerpt:

For example, it is a daily occurrence here that the same people, who finance, arm and dispatch suicide murderers, condemn the act in English in front of western TV cameras, while talking to a world audience, which even partly believes them. Yet, it is also part of the daily routine to hear the same leaders making opposite statements in Arabic to their people...

...But words also work in other ways, more subtle. For example, there is a new game in town: The actual murderer is called "the military wing"; the one who pays him, equips him and sends him is now called "the political wing"; and the head of the operation is called the "spiritual leader". There are numerous other examples of such Orwellian nomenclature, used every day not only by terror chiefs but also by Western media.

And of course, the OIC, Arab league etc...

If democracy is just free elections, it is likely that the most fanatic regime will be elected, the one whose incitement and fabrications are the most inflammatory. We have seen it already in Algeria and, to a certain extent, in Turkey. It will happen again, if the ground is not prepared very carefully...

Right on target again.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 3:28:31 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: o_zarkman44
Unfortunately the left has trouble grasping the truth.

Truth to the left is that which advances their goals. Factuality has nothing to do with it. Think of soviet show trials, 'rat rants about conservatives. Their goal is world socialism and President Bush, the GOP stand in their way. We are the enemy. OBTW, since islamofascists also wish to destroy the US, they are the left's ally.

These are not my ideas, but David Horowitz's as espoused in Unholy Alliance

16 posted on 11/22/2005 3:43:42 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Apolitical

Sounds good, bump for later!


17 posted on 11/22/2005 3:46:08 PM PST by aShepard
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To: USF

The actual murderer is called "the military wing"; the one who pays him, equips him and sends him is now called "the political wing"; and the head of the operation is called the "spiritual leader". There are numerous other examples of such Orwellian nomenclature, used every day not only by terror chiefs but also by Western media.

Could not be plainer.


18 posted on 11/22/2005 3:50:40 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SunkenCiv

thanks for the ping


20 posted on 11/22/2005 7:45:11 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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