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Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes
New Scientist ^ | November 15, 2005 | Gaia [sic] Vince

Posted on 11/16/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes

    * 14:02 15 November 2005
    * NewScientist.com news service
    * Gaia Vince

A new microscope sensitive enough to track the real-time motion of a single protein, right down to the scale of its individual atoms, has revealed how genes are copied from DNA – a process essential to life.

The novel device allows users to achieve the highest-resolution measurements ever, equivalent to the diameter of a single hydrogen atom, says Steven Block, who designed it with colleagues at Stanford University in California.

Block was able to use the microscope to track a molecule of DNA from an E.coli bacterium, settling a long-standing scientific debate about the precise method in which genetic material is copied for use.

The molecular double-helix of DNA resembles a twisted ladder consisting of two strands connected by “rungs” called bases. The bases, which are known by the abbreviations A, T, G and C, encode genetic information, and the sequence in which they appear “spell out” different genes.

Every time a new protein is made, the genetic information for that protein must first be transcribed from its DNA blueprint. The transcriber, an enzyme called RNA polymerase (RNAP), latches on to the DNA ladder and pulls a small section apart lengthwise. As it works its way down the section of DNA, RNAP copies the sequence of bases and builds a complementary strand of RNA – the first step in a new protein.

“For years, people have known that RNA is made up one base at a time,” Block says. “But that has left open the question of whether the RNAP enzyme actually climbs up the DNA ladder one rung at a time, or does it move instead in chunks – for example, does it add three bases, then jump along and add another three bases.

Light and helium

In order to settle the question, the researchers designed equipment that was able to very accurately monitor the movements of a single DNA molecule.

Block chemically bonded one end of the DNA length to a glass bead. The bead was just 1 micrometre across, a thousand times the length of the DNA molecule and, crucially, a billion times its volume. He then bonded the RNAP enzyme to another bead. Both beads were placed in a watery substrate on a microscope slide.

Using mirrors, he then focused two infrared laser beams down onto each bead. Because the glass bead was in water, there was a refractive (optical density) difference between the glass and water, which caused the laser to bend and focus the light so that Block knew exactly where each bead was.

But in dealing with such small objects, he could not afford any of the normal wobbles in the light that occur when the photons have to pass through different densities of air at differing temperatures. So, he encased the whole microscope in a box containing helium. Helium has a very low refractive index so, even if temperature fluctuations occurred, the effect would be too small to matter.

One by one

The group then manipulated one of the glass beads until the RNAP latched on to a rung on the DNA molecule. As the enzyme moved along the bases, it tugged the glass bead it was bonded too, moving the two beads toward each together. The RNAP jerked along the DNA, pausing between jerks to churn out RNA transcribed bases. It was by precisely measuring the lengths of the jerks that Block determined how many bases it transcribed each time.

“The RNAP climbs the DNA ladder one base pair at a time – that is probably the right answer,” he says.

“It’s a very neat system – amazing to be able see molecular details and work out how DNA is transcribed for the first time,” said Justin Molloy, who has pioneered similar work at the National Institute for Medical Research, London. “It’s pretty incredible. You would never have believed it could be possible 10 years ago.”

Journal reference: Nature (DOI: 10.1038/nature04268)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biology; chemistry; crevolist; dna; microscopy; rna; rnap; science
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Funny how indirect evidence suits the purposes of science in every case except when it points to intelligent design. Why the blind spot?

What does indirect evidence have to do with it?

The reason ID is not considered science is because of the difficulties inherent in knowing the design status of an object when nothing is known about the designer. It does no good to have as many false positives as correct results. Get the people at DI to fix the problems with ID then talk about getting it into science.

861 posted on 11/17/2005 1:33:17 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: BlueStateDepression
If the Path of God is right and proper WHAT is the need for threat of punishment for lack of worship alone?

Let's look at the background again...
 
Genesis 2
 
 7.  the LORD God formed the man  from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
 8.  Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.
 9.  And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground--trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
 10.  A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters.
 11.  The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold.
 12.  (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin and onyx are also there.)
 13.  The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.
 14.  The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
 15.  The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
 16.  And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
 17.  but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." 
 
 

 
God did not use a 'threat of punishment' on Adam: HE merely told him what would happen if he did eat of that tree.
862 posted on 11/17/2005 1:33:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: airborne
That's not nice. I had no control over that.

You must be a Calvinist.


(No... that NOT who the Calvinasaurus is named after!)

863 posted on 11/17/2005 1:35:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

No. Just a man.


864 posted on 11/17/2005 1:37:39 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
If energy is applied, the result is not "spontaneous." Furthermore, both the applied energy and its result are, by virtue of design, quantifiable mathematically.

In thermodynamics, spontaneous means that any energy available in an object for diffusing will spread out if given a chance.

The applied energy and its result are indeed quantifiable mathematically, but it has nothing to do with design. Its a part of the natural interactions between atoms. Being quantifiable mathematically does not imply design.

865 posted on 11/17/2005 1:38:03 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: b_sharp

Indirect evidence has a great deal to do with science, and vise versa. The evidence for intelligent design is largely indirect. The only inherent difficulties in ascertaining whether an object is designed or not occur when there is no physical matter to observe or quantify, IOW total chaos. Put another way, if all the universe were a black hole, intelligent design would perhaps be sorely lacking in physical evidence.


866 posted on 11/17/2005 1:48:22 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: b_sharp
Your complaint of inconsistent change is invalid when considered in light of extant population patterns.

Not when compared to the 'homid' pictures. THEY don't hop around!

867 posted on 11/17/2005 1:49:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite

But... I'm halfway there now!


868 posted on 11/17/2005 1:50:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite
Things like changing eyesocket size are typically referred to by creationists as "microevolution". You need to look at the way things fit together, not their dimensions.

I ain't typical.

There is no PROOF that any of those heads led to or came from the other ones!

869 posted on 11/17/2005 1:51:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The evidence for intelligent design is largely indirect.

The evidence for intelligent design is largely indirect imaginary.

Fixed it for you.

870 posted on 11/17/2005 1:53:10 PM PST by blowfish
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To: GOPPachyderm; WildHorseCrash
It stretches credulity to think it could have come about by time and chance.

Yet it does not stretch credulity to think that a Supreme Being just exists? A Supreme Being who possesses the complexity to design/create wonderous things like DNA and RNA?

One of the basic questions of childhood is, "Where did God come from?" I have yet to come across an explanation that does not also fit the natural universe.

871 posted on 11/17/2005 1:54:13 PM PST by Wolfstar (The stakes in the global war on terror are too high for politicians to throw out false charges.)
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To: b_sharp

So if it's just natural interaction between atoms, and there is no apparent design, then it is a matter that attains to the level of "scientific." And it would be an "unscientific" notion to posit that perhaps what appears to be "random" or "unguided" may actually be designed and executed according to established rules, laws, etc. I see.


872 posted on 11/17/2005 1:55:28 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"I said nothing about proof. Don't put words in my mouth."

You are correct, my apologies.

However this does not change my point. For the existence of 'information' to provide evidence for a designer it is necessary to have evidence that information can only be produced by a designer.

873 posted on 11/17/2005 1:56:19 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: blowfish

Do you drive your imaginary car to work, or carry your lunch?


874 posted on 11/17/2005 1:56:48 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Elsie
You forgot the most excellent shattered skull groupings.

Wolf
875 posted on 11/17/2005 1:59:55 PM PST by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Science is about naturalistic explanations of the physical world around us. It is a tool. Nothing more. It describes the physical world in concrete terms, and does so in such a way as to provide predictive power.

Many people working in science and engineering disciplines have faith. Their faith, even their disparate faiths in Judaism, Christianity, Hindusism, etc, does not prevent them from understanding what science is and how it works and working together on it.

However, attempting to shoehorn theology into biology and chemistry, as you are trying to do, does a disservice to both faith and science. I personally believe that the God-of-the-Gaps not only makes for bad science, but bad theology as well.

876 posted on 11/17/2005 2:04:02 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: b_sharp
It is necessary to have evidence that information can only be produced by a designer?

How can information be produced and delivered without any aspect of design or intelligence? Is it "unscientific" to suggest design and intelligence are often part and parcel of producing information and then executing functions based upon that information?

877 posted on 11/17/2005 2:09:11 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Elsie
7. the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

Kinda hard to say the bible says life begins at conception with that one Eh? Off subject,my bad, I know, but I couldn't resist.

What is the First commandment again?

WHat happens when I do not worship Him? Is that not sin? Without accepting Jesus as my Saviour that forgave all our sins, what happens as a result??

I find this interesting. "you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil"

I would offer that sums up the argument by religious folks against science in a nutshell. That in and of itself strikes me as a tool of intimidation used to stop people from thinking, exploring, testing and proving what is true or not.

Is there not a threat of punishment, casting me down to eternal damnation in hell, for not worshiping Him? For lack of accepting Jesus as my savior that died to forgive my sins?

Let me try it this way. According to your Bible...

What happens to me if I deny worship?

What happens to me if I do not accept Jesus as my savior that died to forgive all my sins?
878 posted on 11/17/2005 2:09:47 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Elsie
It isn't about proof, in the courtroom sense. There is strong evidence, from many avenues in science (not only biology, but physics, chemisty, and geology as well) that supports the notion those skulls are from animals that are distantly related. Denying that these animals are related denies not only biology, but physics, chemisty, and geology, along with it.

As an aside, this is why people lose patience with these threads. How many times must people explain the same, basic concepts?

879 posted on 11/17/2005 2:11:34 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Ichneumon
Nazi SS belt buckle, with motto "Gott mit uns [God is with us]"

Minor nitpick: the motto "Gott mit uns" was on the belt buckle of the Wehrmacht which inherited it from the Reichswehr (the Reichswehr IIRC also inherited the motto from pre-WW1 units).
The motto on the SS belt buckle was actually "Meine Ehre heisst Treue".

880 posted on 11/17/2005 2:17:53 PM PST by BMCDA (Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must be silent. -- L. Wittgenstein)
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