Note: this topic is from 11/14/2005. Thanks blam. One of *those* topics.
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Posted on 11/14/2005 1:25:30 PM PST by blam
Posted on Sun, Nov. 13, 2005
Research on ancient writing linked with modern Mideast conflict
BY RON GROSSMAN
CHICAGO - Professorial colleagues think Ron Tappy has made a landmark breakthrough in our understanding of the world of the Bible. He himself is waiting for the other shoe to drop.
This week, Tappy will formally unveil his discovery at the meetings of the American Schools of Oriental Research. Normally a presentation titled "The 2005 Excavation Season at Tel Zayit, with Special Attention to the Tenth Century BCE" would hardly be noticed beyond the scholars who will gather at the Hyatt Penn's Landing hotel in Philadelphia.
This year's convention, though, has the potential for a media circus. Narrowly, Tappy's research involves the history of writing. He apparently has found a missing link in the evolution of the alphabet.
Because he found it in the Holy Land, his lecture will raise tempers. Archaeologists generally are gentle folk. But biblical studies imperceptibly shade over from scholarly pursuits to modern-day passions inflamed by contemporary struggles of Israelis and Palestinians. One camp, "the maximalists" implies the other harbors anti-Semites. The "minimalists," in turn, charge their accusers with confusing Zionism with scholarship.
"In the Middle East, you can start a mini war over who got there first," said William G. Dever, professor emeritus of the University of Arizona and a fierce opponent of the minimalists. "This isn't about ancient Israel. It's about modern Israel and the Palestinians."
Philip Davies, professor emeritus at the University of Sheffield in England, is generally considered the founding father of the minimalists - most of whom are European-based. He is coming to the Philadelphia meetings prepared for battle with his American colleagues.
"When I fly the Atlantic, I feel like a gladiator," Davies said. "Tappy's research is going to be a football, kicked around from one side to the other."
Over the summer, Tappy was excavating at Tel Zayit, an archaeological site southwest of Jerusalem, with his scholarly partners, P. Kyle McCarter of Johns Hopkins University, Bruce Zuckerman of the University of Southern California and Marilyn Lundberg of the West Semitic Research Project. He noticed a stone inscribed with letters on an ancient wall. They didn't form words but were arraigned in alphabetical order. He realized they connected the biblical age with the contemporary world.
"A word printed in a book today is linked to the scribes who worked on that stone," said Tappy, a professor at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary.
Scholars have long recognized that alphabetical writing was a one-time invention. It was created by the Phoenicians, who lived in what now is Lebanon. The Greeks borrowed it from them. The Romans picked it up from the Greeks, and the Latin alphabet became the writing vehicle of the European peoples and their overseas colonies from the New World to Australia. To the East, the Phoenicians' invention became the basis for writing Arabic and languages of India and Southeast Asia.
But until now, scholars couldn't see the process by which the Phoenicians' breakthrough was adopted by other ancient peoples. Tappy's stone seems to supply the missing evidence: Phoenician letters used to represent an early form of the Hebrew language. Tappy dates the site to the 10th century B.C.
And there's the scholarly - and the political - rub. By the Old Testament account, the 10th century was an era of the great kings David and Solomon, who built a mighty temple in Jerusalem. To Israeli nationalists, that version of the story gives their cause title to the Holy Land.
But minimalist scholars think the biblical account inflated; they argue that, in the 10th century, the Hebrews were wandering tribes, not nation or temple builders.
That account suits Palestinian nationalists just fine, because they claim Jerusalem as theirs.
"The minimalists argue that the ancient Hebrews didn't know how to write, so they couldn't have had a real state, a kingdom," noted Hershel Shanks, editor of Biblical Archeology Review. "But Tappy's discovery shows they were already writing in an outlying settlement. Imagine what you must have had in Jerusalem."
Tappy - who considers himself a mild maximalist - is bemused by the battles swirling around him. He still is on a scholarly high from his initial reaction to that alphabet on a wall at Tel Zayit.
"What a giant leap forward for humans, I thought," he said. "I was speechless. I realized the irony: Here were all the letters of the alphabet, and I couldn't put two or three together to make a single word."
In Acts 8.26 there is a reference to the road that runs from Jerusalem to Gaza. That apparently ran a few miles south of Tel Zayit.
Hopefully I'll be able to post a thread about the proceedings, etc.
(BTW, in case any readers of this thread don't recall, the ossuary was eventually proved to be a hoax. The owner was arrested and I believe is awaiting trial in Isarel.)
Care to cast an hypothesis on why public schools, (and most other conduits of the liberal agenda), teach the doctrine of evolution without explaining to people that empirical research on evolution is impossible, and that there is no universal consensus amongst scientists on the subject?
Theories are fine with me, so long as those who espouse them do so with the proper disclaimers and caveats. Unfortunately, such is almost never the case when 'science' is fed to public education institutions and promoted through the liberal mass media. In fact, I believe that many 'scientists' will willfully advance their personal and political agendas by substituting junk science for the real thing.
I believe that Biblical history takes man back about 6,000 years or so. Many evolutionists take man's origin back millions of years.
That both sides would agree that man had full intellectual powers six thousand years ago means absolutely nothing to the debate. (Though to people of faith there is no 'debate' about creation).
'Debate' about man's origin only occurs when those who attempt, with junk science, to disprove the Bible's teaching. Though the theory of 'evolution' is unobservable and utterly impossible to recreate, it is advanced like some sort of secular catechsis or unassailable doctrine.
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A Is for Ancient, Describing an Alphabet Found Near Jerusalem
Posted by saquin
On News/Activism 11/08/2005 8:48:19 PM PST · 29 replies · 514+ views
New York Times | 11/9/05 | John Noble Wilford
In the 10th century B.C., in the hill country south of Jerusalem, a scribe carved his A B C's on a limestone boulder - actually, his aleph-beth-gimel's, for the string of letters appears to be an early rendering of the emergent Hebrew alphabet. Archaeologists digging in July at the site, Tel Zayit, found the inscribed stone in the wall of an ancient building. After an analysis of the layers of ruins, the discoverers concluded that this was the earliest known specimen of the Hebrew alphabet and an important benchmark in the history of writing, they said this week. If they...
Israelite Alphabet May Have Been Found
Posted by anymouse
On News/Activism 11/09/2005 5:11:58 PM PST · 29 replies · 658+ views
Associated Press | 11/09/04
Two lines of an alphabet have been found inscribed in a stone in Israel, offering what some scholars say is the most solid evidence yet that the ancient Israelites were literate as early as the 10th century B.C. "This is very rare. This stone will be written about for many years to come," archaeologist Ron E. Tappy, a professor at the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary who made the discovery, said Wednesday. "This makes it very historically probable there were people in the 10th century (B.C.) who could write." Christopher Rollston, a professor of Semitic studies at Emmanuel School of Religion in...
Actually it makes your earlier argument moot:
Since I never subscribed to the theory of evolution, I believe man's immediately-created intelligence allowed a written language to begin very rapidly
Both you and those who accept evolution agree that man had full and complete intelligence 6,000 years ago. So any concept of "gradual intelligence" is totally unrelated to the orgins of writing.
Based on your replies, I think you're either responding to the wrong person or have a real intellectual deficit.
Evolutionists claim man is millions of years old, and developed intellectual abilities only gradually. Creationists, which I agree with, claim man is roughly 6,000 years old and possessed high intellectual capabilities and reason from the very beginning of their creation.
On the subject of the first letter of the first alphabet, I believe the first 'letter' of an alphabet was created when the first man fashioned a symbol on a tree or the earth to warn his fellow tribesman of some local, inherent danger, and it became the accepted symbol to communicate danger amongst each other, in 'writing'. Or it occurred when he first carved a mark (symbol) on a tree to help him remember directions, or to warn other tribes not to trespass. One could even take origins of writing back to God Himself, who created the earth and hence created the 'tracks' of animals which symbolized they were present, told which species and how many, and explained where they were heading.
It's all very interesting and edifying to learn and speculate about this stuff, but it's even more interesting to watch the evolutionists and scientists' blood pressure rise as they toil and sweat to 'prove' their little theories and drive their agenda, rather than just present their findings and let the chips fall where they may.
Go back and read you first post again. It isn't relative to this discussion. As for the intellectual deficit, that's what liberals do. Claim people are stupid when they are the ones that don't understand the discussion. You give Crusaders a bad name.
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