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Poll: Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest
My Way News ^ | Nov 11 | Will Lester

Posted on 11/11/2005 7:51:23 PM PST by Jacob Kell

WASHINGTON (AP) - Two crucial pillars of President Bush's public support - perceptions of his honesty and faith in his ability to fight terrorism - have slipped to their lowest point in the AP-Ipsos poll.

While the CIA leak investigation, the mishandling of Hurricane Katrina and high energy costs have all taken their toll, the polling found the Iraq war at the core of Americans' displeasure with the president.

All of those concerns are cutting into traditional Bush strengths.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; antiamerica; bush; bushhate; cia; damnmedia; hurricanekatrina; jobapproval; katrina; leftwingbias; media; mexicofirst; nwo; polls; presbush; presidentbush; purecrap; term2; us; usa; waronterror; warwithiraq
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To: Jacob Kell

Polls like this simply reinforce the notion (for those of us with a clue) just how utterly stupid the general masses are. It's truly a Jay Leno man-on-the-street world out there.

Regards,
LH


21 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jacob Kell

"Poll: Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest"

This American Says Most Polls Not Honest


22 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:46 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: pnut22

Hee hee.


23 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:48 PM PST by Sally Golightly
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To: Sally Golightly

Typically these polls have at least a 10 point sample size in favor in the dems. A typical sample size of 401 'adults' might be, 36% dems, 25%, republicans, 35% independants. Go troll your talking points elsewhere.


24 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:42 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Jacob Kell
Don't feel so bad. The poll sample only has 51% Democrats this time. It is just an AP/Ipsos 'pollitorial' after all...

Just to add to the media polling bias, here is the recent history of the "ever-reliable" AP/Ipsos polls (January - November 2005) and their political Party ID sample composition for each poll. The AP/Ipsos polls push Independents to identify with either Republicans or Democrats, only the 'hard-core' remain as self-identified 'Independents'...

This is an mixed ADULTS and Registered Voters poll, not just registered voters. Note the consistant gap in the party ID between Democrats and Republicans, strange given the the 2004 Presidential Election exit polls identified 37% Republicans, 37% Democrats and 26% Independents among the voting American public. The Republicans have achieved voter self-indentification parity with the Democrats for the first time since the late 1920s.

This series of AP/Ipsos poll result on Presidential job approval and the American public views on the 'direction of the country' was as always based on a skewed demographic sample that averages 41% Republican, 49% Democrat and 10% Independent composition. I think that when the AP poll fails to get the results they desire, they 'play' with both the registered voters composition and vary the un-registered voter portion of the poll sample. Since the Registered voter portion of the poll averages around 78% and the 'breathing' voter averages around 22% you can see they have quite a bit of "statistical slack" to play with to get the results they require...


Presidential Approval Ratings
AP/Ipsos monthly Polls
(n~1,000 ± 3.1%)


  9-Nov 2-Nov 5-Oct 16-Sep 6-Sep August July June May April March February January
Republicans 40% 40% 40% 41% 42% 39% 42% 40% 42% 41% 39% 39% 43%
Democrats 51% 49% 48% 49% 48% 48% 51% 50% 49% 48% 47% 52% 49%
Independents 9% 11% 12% 10% 10% 13% 7% 10% 9% 11% 14% 9% 8%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                           
Registered 78% 80% 78% 77% 76% 79% 77% 80% 79% 82% 78% 76% 80%
Breathing 22% 20% 22% 23% 24% 21% 23% 20% 21% 18% 22% 24% 20%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                           
Approve 37% 37% 39% 40% 39% 42% 42% 43% 47% 44% 48% 45% 49%
Disapprove 61% 59% 58% 57% 59% 55% 56% 55% 51% 54% 50% 54% 49%
Total: 98% 96% 97% 97% 98% 97% 98% 98% 98% 98% 98% 99% 98%


Note: The AP/Ipsos polls are published in PDF format and become unavailable after one month. You must be a 'premium' member to access those PDF files on their web site. No consistant links are provided for that reason.

Source: AP-Ipsos Poll, November 7-9, 2005 Project #81-5139-67

Hope this helps,

dvwjr

25 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:56 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: Jacob Kell

The RATs have hated Bush from day 1, except right after 911 when Bush had a 90% + rating.

The reason for the drop in the polls is ALWAYS wrong, when the MSM authors the story. The true reason for the drop in the polls is that conservatives are fed up with Bush. It is not the "middle" or nonsnese like that. It is the true conservatives, hardcore Republicans who have thrown the towel in on Bush.


26 posted on 11/11/2005 8:11:02 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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Bush is pretty honest for a politician. More so than all of the Dems, and 85% of the Rats in Congress. He makes some mistakes, but is a good man.


27 posted on 11/11/2005 8:13:15 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Jacob Kell

I say this is a dishonest poll, agenda driven and predetermined outcome oriented. But then I'm just a stupid "average person" type, no one ever polls me, never!


28 posted on 11/11/2005 8:13:36 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Jacob Kell
The ONLY meaningfull poll is that which is taken on ELECTION DAY. All others are NEWS MAKERS not news reporting.

I believe the only one other way to take a poll except on election day is to only POLL registered Republicans [for a Republican] or registered Democrats [for a Dim].

It is as newsworthy and reflective of opinion as the BIASED polls taken in this day and age.

29 posted on 11/11/2005 8:13:47 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Jacob Kell
This is what happens when you let the Big Lie hold sway in the media and go months without defending yourself. Bush is not up for re-election of course but this has sapped his ability to get things done with a squeamish majority in Congress.
30 posted on 11/11/2005 8:14:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Indy Pendance

Is the sample not random, they ask the questions and then ask the demographics?


31 posted on 11/11/2005 8:14:43 PM PST by Sally Golightly
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To: MJY1288
"All week long we have seen Mary Mapes on the talk show circuit and NOBODY has asked her how a Microsoft Word Document could ever be considered as a legit Military document."

What we had from Mapes this morning during an interview with E.D. Hill on Fox and Friends, is this exchange on the definition of "authenticate"......(This is a CC transcript that GRRRR provided.

E.D.: You had the three cbs authenticators, who said no, i quo not authenticate thaT. What happened?

>> This is what is difficult about iT. We tossed the word around authenticate and there's a legal meaning to it and then there's the kind of thing you and i would talk about. Legally authenticate means 100%, which would be an ink test or something like that. You can't do that on a copy and i always knew that and what i felt we had to do was rely on the information much more than the very subjective profession of document analysiS.

32 posted on 11/11/2005 8:15:25 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Sally Golightly

Every poll I've taken, they ask about you, then decide if you 'fit' their profile.


33 posted on 11/11/2005 8:15:51 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Jacob Kell

>>>If anyone is wondering why I posted this, I'm just curious as to what you guys have to say about it.<<<

If you had half-a-brain you would have, at the very least, mentioned that the DNC and their Main Stream Media propaganda machine have been lying about Bush continuously for more than five years. Alternately, you would have appended a "(Main Stream Media Poll Alert!)" to the end of the title line.


34 posted on 11/11/2005 8:17:58 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." - James 4:7)
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To: HitmanNY

Yeah, like Zogby, eh?


35 posted on 11/11/2005 8:18:22 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Firefigher NC

I think if they polled a little deeper they would find that americans aren't that happy with gov't in general. Especially congress


36 posted on 11/11/2005 8:18:43 PM PST by virgil
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To: Indy Pendance
LOL, notice how these threads are troll-bait, the last time they posted was for.......take a guess......Katrina!

You remember, Bush hates black people, Brown was Bush's "best" friend who hated black people too, (sort of like Enron's chief was suddenly Bush's best friend when he got in trouble.)

So predictable.
37 posted on 11/11/2005 8:21:16 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Jacob Kell

" the mishandling of Hurricane Katrina"



I'm sick of this charge being leveled and no one calling anyone on it. Could things have been handled better? I'm sure. But it wasn't the total screw up the MSM and the Dems like to claim!


38 posted on 11/11/2005 8:21:21 PM PST by nralife
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To: SmoothTalker
Bush is pretty honest for a politician

I'd say he's honest to a fault.

He means what he says and does what he says. I think he tries to play by the rules and it's eating him alive.

The dimwitted Democrats have launched barrage after barrage and only TODAY have we seen a response.

39 posted on 11/11/2005 8:30:15 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

GWB made a mistake by trying to fight a war in Iraq without mobilizing the country for war. Within a week after 9/11 videos of the burning WTC was pulled, speeches were made to pacify American anger at the Arab world. Our borders were never closed. GWB placed his faith in his military to wrap up the war in Afghanistan and Iraq without the need to whip up nationalism and patriotism. Reason for this tactical blunder. IMHO GWB is a globalist. The last 30 years our institutions try to eliminate our borders to prepare our society for a large free trade zone. Our elites have spent many years to eliminate patriotism and replace it with global multi culturalism. This war may re establish nationalism, which is a barrier to the long term objectives of free trade/globalism. If you do not whip up patriotism, then our left and the negative MSM will define the war for the public. The worst case scenario has emerged, our military progress is slower than originally anticipated, and it allowed the unopposed left and MSM to revive itself to undermind our military successes. Even if GWB policy survives this onslaught, future Presidents will hesitate to fight wars because the political risks are too great. Worst, our enemies will misread US as being weak and it will embolden them. One of the most important lessons from Vietnam War is that you do not win a war by committing an army to war, you win by committing a nation to war.


40 posted on 11/11/2005 8:36:01 PM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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