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LIVE THREAD - California special election (props 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80)
California Secretary of State- Special Statewide Election ^ | Tuesday evening November 8th

Posted on 11/08/2005 8:20:03 PM PST by ajolympian2004

TODAY, Californians are heading to the polls to vote on several major propositions that shall dramatically affect both the political and economic future of our state.

We are following the activity and will report the results.

California Propositions

2.8% of precincts reporting as of Nov 08 08:13 PM PST

Results: http://www.sfgate.com/election/

(Excerpt) Read more at vote2005.ss.ca.gov ...


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To: mrs tiggywinkle
That's just it. The vox populi has now rendered its verdict. If the people of California want high taxes, more spending and continued deficits, they know exactly what for they voted. I don't agree with it but that's the way life is. We don't always get what we want.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1,281 posted on 11/09/2005 7:14:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kruelio

And now you know why so many are bailing on this state...even if it means leaving it to the illegal aliens (which Ahhnold will do nothing about).


1,282 posted on 11/09/2005 7:16:09 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: goldstategop

I always call California the liberal petri dish.

All conservatives should move and just leave that mess to the dogs...


1,283 posted on 11/09/2005 7:16:42 AM PST by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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To: kruelio
This state has a mindset 180 degrees apart from most of the country. Think of California as a being a mirror-image of Texas and you have a good picture of people's politics here.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1,284 posted on 11/09/2005 7:16:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I believe that if a million more people got off their apathetic rears and voted, then we would have seen a different end to the props. But, perhaps like you, they felt their vote wouldn't make a difference...a very disappointing decision. I have to wonder how many people you influenced to *not* vote. If people choose to hide their heads in the sand and eat worms they have no right to complain about the way things turn out. Period. Very disappointing.


1,285 posted on 11/09/2005 7:20:01 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Wiseghy

Oh if that all happens then this state will be in BK by 09!


1,286 posted on 11/09/2005 7:21:04 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Once more we are reminded never to underestimate the power or the campaign war chest of the unions. And it doesn't help that California voters are lazy simpletons. How could anyone vote themselves a tax increase?


1,287 posted on 11/09/2005 7:22:03 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: rollo tomasi

do you have a real estate transfer tax in CA yet? long island has one of those, so many people selling their homes and pulling out, the local geovernment essentially taxes (takes) a portion of your home equity when you go to sell it as people try and get out.


1,288 posted on 11/09/2005 7:22:12 AM PST by oceanview
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To: kruelio

hey, at least the people there got to vote directly on these decisions - that's more then people in most states can say.


1,289 posted on 11/09/2005 7:23:42 AM PST by oceanview
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
I wasn't influenced. Can you tell me your vote made a difference this morning? I can see nothing's changed. And California will move even further to the Left.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1,290 posted on 11/09/2005 7:24:19 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

An opposition minority vote, at the very least, weakens the mandate of the winning vote. I'd rather lose by a tenth of a percent than by 10 percent, if I have to lose. Then at least there's a sense of hope.


1,291 posted on 11/09/2005 7:26:05 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Allah Nutbar! Burn cars to feed yourselves! France is too conservative! Midnight Goat Soccer.)
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To: Prime Choice

that map is for prop 76 not for all the props.


1,292 posted on 11/09/2005 7:26:14 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: EveningStar
The Prop 13 days are long gone here. Those were the good times. Now its up to the Democrats to clean up their own mess.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1,293 posted on 11/09/2005 7:26:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nephi
I think he should resign, too. Really, there's no reason for him to try to save Kahleefornya. He tried and he deserves respect, but he can't do it alone.

This confirms my 'poison pill' theory. Before the recall, I argued myself blue in the face that recalling Davis would be a disaster for the R's. Schwartznegger would be completely unable to govern CA, given the composition of the legislature, and given the cosa nostra of public employee unions that run the legislature. But any failures in CA would be blamed by the Old Media there on Schwartznegger. Responsibility for the state's problems would be diffused in the public's eye.

I give him credit for trying. He came closer than I thought he would. But without 75, the State is doomed. And 75 was never going to pass with the money the cosa nostra was going to spend.

Sadly, the only remaining strategy is twofold:

* We have to admit that California is completely lost for at least a generation. We also know that the dems cannot be given the steering wheel without crashing. So our strategy should be to make it unambiguous to even the stupid people that the Dems are driving (since they are anyway).

So let the dems have the state and crash it hard. It shouldn't take too long.

A public resignation by Schwartznegger, accompanied by a clear statement that the unions and dems have made the state ungovernable and its problems are unsolvable until Californians want to solve them would have the salutory effect of moving the R's to the backbench and clearly putting the blame where it belongs for the coming disaster in CA.

* Quarantine the rest of the country against the cancer that is there.

1,294 posted on 11/09/2005 7:27:03 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: goldstategop

1,000,000????

Hardly!

Check those numbers again on Prop 73, 74 & 75.
Less than 500,000 votes on all of them.
But, since you couldn't be bothered....you helped those pass. Thanks for nothing.


1,295 posted on 11/09/2005 7:28:01 AM PST by Feiny (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Winning in politics is the whole ball game. The Democrat will now take this state where they want it to go. There's no trying to gloss over the picture. That's what voters want.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1,296 posted on 11/09/2005 7:28:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Prime Choice

As soon as I saw Prop 73 turn last night, I went to bed. This is too depressing. Remember the "recall" election? We were told "the tide is changing in CA!" Republicans are coming back!

WHO thinks it's a bad idea to notify parents their daughters are having abortions? Prop 73 isn't to STOP the abortion, just to notify them. Personal responsibility is shunned: we can't have the kids OR THE PARENTS facing theirs.

What a horrible joke. I never planned on living in this state forever, but now I am certain we will speed up our move out of here. Between the failure of Prop 73 alone (not to mention 74, 75, 76, 77), and the 9th Circuit this past week basically saying that parents have no right to influence their children with their religious views (because apparently government schools are the new, REAL parent), I want no part of this state.

I can't wait until parents are arrested for taking their children to church on Sundays.


1,297 posted on 11/09/2005 7:29:43 AM PST by cgk (Card-Carrying, Dues-Paying Member of the VCBC {Vast Conservative Base Conspiracy})
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To: ModelBreaker; onyx

When I woke up to the results this morning, I said exactly the same thing to my husband...he should resign, why should he even bother...let California rot...let the smart money move out of the State and just let it rot and hit rock bottom, like Arizona did a decade ago. Then they'll see what cuts really mean. I'm so disgusted, but glad I got out of that State when I did.


1,298 posted on 11/09/2005 7:29:47 AM PST by Hildy
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To: RockinRight
"Why is California such a great place to live? Is it the exorbitant real estate prices? The crime? The earthquakes? The socialist politics?? The Hollyweird crowd?

I can only answer for myself....I moved here from CT almost 20 years ago.Mostly for the weather, landscape, "lifestyle".I have been to almost every part of the US and nothing compares to the weather and the beauty of the place. The people , present company excluded, are morons...it took me 2 weeks to figure that out. As the place has degenerated I can understand your question...for me personally I will not move, I am a contractor in one of the wealthiest counties in th US, I make more money in a week than my friends back in CT do in a month.....it has taken me years to get to this point and I'm not gonna leave because the people are idiots, as I said I knew that after 2 weeks.... I live a fantastic life that I couldn't back in CT., I knew what I was getting into long ago,I am never surprised by the stupidity and ignorance of the populance here, I fully expect it.
1,299 posted on 11/09/2005 7:29:54 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: EveningStar

"How could anyone vote themselves a tax increase?"

I can't help but wonder whether there are a lot of foreign, leftist voters in California now? I feel bad enough about Virginia not having a truly conservative party and being used as an example of 'conservatism failing'. But this California vote is a bad sign. Or is this a smack at Bush more than at Arnold? Or is this just money talking?


1,300 posted on 11/09/2005 7:29:59 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Allah Nutbar! Burn cars to feed yourselves! France is too conservative! Midnight Goat Soccer.)
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