Posted on 11/03/2005 11:36:34 AM PST by shhrubbery!
[snip]...It is not surprising that your White House distrusts and/or despises the media, the CIA, the State Department's career officers, the United Nations and a host of other institutions that you could not control...People in those institutions were out to defy and/or get you.
But you and yours helped them accomplish the mission. One lesson available in this story is that amateurs are no match for the CIA in disinformation campaigns. The spies are far better at operating in the shadows than you politicians will ever be. They have a license to dissemble.
The hidden management of the criminal justice process and the news media practiced by spooks in Wilson-Rove-Libbygate is nothing short of brilliant. So you were right to fear the agency...
Fear probably caused you to keep the Clinton-appointed leadership in place at the CIA long after some of its top operatives mounted a rebellion against the White House, in part to shift attention from their failures to yours. I know that George Tenet charmed you, and the rest of us. That's what spies and spymasters do, sir. You should have been taking that into account...
...After Wilson's slanted account of his mission to Niger provoked a small hubbub over your 16-word reference to Iraq's seeking uranium, Britain reiterated repeatedly to the United States that it stood by its reporting on that topic -- which was not based in any way on the much-ballyhooed forgeries from Italy...
...Telling the public that there was an independent stream of intelligence, with all the problems and counterattacks it would have triggered from the opposition leakers, would have been better for you than aides' taking it on themselves to plant stealthy suggestions of nepotism at the CIA...[excerpts -- all emphasis added by me -- shhrub]
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
that's why it's on the second page. And I bet this is not in print.
My question remains: "Where is Valerie Plame? and Where did Joe suddenly go??
One would think he would continue with his "one act show" now that he is a hot. I smell "distance ourselves" in the Dem camp. The wind could change at any moment.
And Justice probably couldn't start working until Fitz was done, lest there be attacks from the left and the MSM that such an investigation was meant to obstruct or distract from Fitz's investigation.
There is some serious sh** going on under the surface here. Kinda like water polo - you can't see all the clawing and kicking, just the ball being thrown back and forth.
OK, maybe I'm retarded.
But isn't Hoagland an editor of the WaPo ?
A piece written by one of the paper's own editors would more likely reflects the "voice of the Washington Post" than would a column written by a guest, or a lone token conservative voice on staff.
If I'm wrong, I welcome correction and I will grovel appropriately.
I read the article, twice. To me it reads like a typical, liberal anti-Bush tyrade. He throws in a few juicy tidbits about the cia you wouldn't expect, but overall the article is just another hit piece on the Bush Administration.
This is good. But of course an Op-Ed is Hoagland's opinion, the WaPo will say, regardless of the fact that they printed it.
bump
>>>let the public know what you are doing. That, too, is your job.<<<
I have to admit: the Bush administration is as dumb as dirt when it comes to public relations.
Thanks to Jim Hoagland for a little candidness from the MSM.
You know, when I read parts of this story, it is almost as if the media is just a little bent that this administration doesn't talk MORE to them. Almost as if W were to be out in front of his opposition, they would actually tow the line. Instead, W has taken an isolationist approach and so the media decided to make their own stories.
Probably not the case, but....
Could this have anything to do with the upcoming part 2 of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report that Harry Reid ostensibly hijacked the Senate for...to demand rapid release?
One can only hope.
Hmmm, will the Republicans in congress grow some balls and demand an investigation into this? I bet they will, especially since the congressional dems are not smart enough to let sleeping dogs lie.
As for Hoagland's chiding. One thing he should consider, nothing that the dems or MSM have tried have "gotten" Bush. Even with regard to the CIA, Bush has his man at the helm, and his man, by all reports, is cleaning house. The only thing that has gotten Bush is his own base.
I hope you're right.
I've re-read the darned thing over several times now, and I'm still not convinced it's satire. But it's certainly possible I'm retarded, as I've also been told above.
As Op-Ed, I believe his writings would be "reviewed" at the very least. If it's satirical, it should be blatant enough that it can't be confused. Read it over and over until you are convinced that he is stating facts or thoughts and what his sources would be for "facts".
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Okay. I will say it. The Washington Post is not 1000% evil and distorting...There, I hope everyone is happy now.
Gosh, excuse me, I have to go change my briefs.
Mr. Hoagland is, and always has been an ass.
Didn't Wilson do his scheduled National Press Club speech on Monday of this week?
The writer is attempting to shift the focus back on the corrupt White House.
No Shrubbery! is right. There is, as we speak a gathering of momentum to get to the root of the W/Plame affair, and its genesis at CIA.
First it was just us, than some Bloggers, Now both zell Miller and Viki Toensing published in the MSM.....
WaPo, is generally careful not to get caught standing too far to the left.
Yep. He piled more lies on that steaming pile he's built up.
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