"The riots have highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs and frustrations simmering in housing projects to the north and northeast of Paris, heavily populated by North African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children who struggle with high unemployment, crime and poverty."
There, Drudge report actualy SAYS Muslim.....
http://www.drudgereport.com/
the spin continues, and so does the rioting:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17134239%255E601,00.html
The poisonous political rivalries dividing Jacques Chirac's besieged centre-right Government have been temporarily shelved as France confronts escalating violence across the troubled immigrant suburbs of Paris. After a seventh evening of rioting in the poor outer areas of the capital, populated mainly by French of North African and African origin, the political elite admitted the republican model of liberty, equality and fraternity had spectacularly failed. "The republican model of integration of ethnic minorities is in trouble," said Maurice Szafran, the publisher of Marianne magazine. "The young people of the suburbs are not in agreement with any aspect of this model." Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and President Chirac tried to reassure people the state would address the "profound frustrations" of immigrant communities, where unemployment often reaches 50per cent. "The absence of dialogue and escalation of disrespect would lead to a dangerous situation," Mr Chirac said in a none-too-subtle dig at Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy's inflammatory descriptions of the young rioters as "scum".
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1277345
Youths who rampaged overnight left a trail of burned cars, buses and shops in nine suburbs north and east of Paris, home to North African and black African minorities frustrated at their failure to get jobs or recognition in French society. Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin condemned the violence and said restoring order was his "absolute priority."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1855954,00.html
"there are about 8,000 cars torched every year in France, in areas such as this in Paris and Marseille and Lyon and Strasbourg. It's the standard method of self-expression. So it has to be kept in some perspective, but at the same time it has to be handled properly by the Government because there's a clear feeling that so far it's been mishandled. The villain of the piece in many eyes is Nicolas Sarkozy, the Interior Minister, who is very much hard right, and opposed to him is Domininque de Villepin, the more consensual Prime Minister... The media tend to reflect the complaints of the left and of immigrant groups, but I personally suspect that the average Frenchman is with M Sarkozy on this, that the yobs have to be kept under control. His talk about cleaning out the scum from the estates is deemed to be terribly offensive, if you're among the people trying to promote integration and inter-ethnic dialogue, but it pleases people who think that France lacks law and order."
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2190432005
Rioters ignored an appeal for calm from French President Jacques Chirac, whose government worked feverishly to fend off a political crisis amid criticism that it has ignored problems in Parisian suburbs heavily populated by first and second generation North African and Muslim immigrants.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1277237
A kindergarten, a gymnasium, government offices and hundreds of cars have been torched over the past week by youths in largely immigrant areas who began rampaging after two of their peers were electrocuted at a power substation while hiding from police they feared were chasing them... France's government faced growing pressure to curb the violence, fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/france-plunged-into-crisis-by-immigrant-riots/2005/11/03/1130823342502.html
The seventh night of violence, primarily the burning of cars, began as a protest over the deaths last Thursday of two north African youths who were electrocuted when they jumped over a fence surrounding a high-voltage electrical transformer. Some relatives and witnesses said the youths were running from the police, although the official account said the police were not pursuing them... Burning cars as a form of protest is not unusual in the largely immigrant, working-class neighbourhoods. Unemployment there is 30 per cent or more, compared with the national rate of 10 per cent. More than 20,000 cars have been set ablaze in France so far this year, according to a government report cited by the newspaper Le Figaro.
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now *this* is interesting...
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/721c2ab4-49b3-11da-8686-0000779e2340,dwp_uuid=d4f2ab60-c98e-11d7-81c6-0820abe49a01.html
Mr Sarkozy, an advocate of positive discrimination as well as a strict quota system for immigrants, sparked controversy last week when he suggested he would be in favour of giving immigrants the right to vote in city polls. Some of his closest supporters in the UMP have criticised his proposal, arguing that any right to vote should be given only to those who choose to take full French citizenship.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=14899
Concerned that a shortage of mosques is allowing extremists to gain a foothold among Frances 5.5 million Muslims by funding places of worship, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy earlier this month named a panel to look into the prickly question. Due to report to the government in June next year, the committee is being asked, among other things, to suggest ways of reviewing the 1905 secularity law that bans the state from funding places of worship.
http://www.metropoleparis.com/044bistr.html
Fourteen months before the campaign officially begins the self–proclaimed leading right–wing candidate, Minister of the Interior Nicolas Sarkozy, took his quest to the platform at Agenteuil last Tuesday night and promised to 'eradicate the gangrene.'
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/tough-talk-amid-violence-backfires-on-a-wouldbe-president/2005/11/03/1130823342508.html
Just a week before the riots, he promised a "war without mercy" on violence and petty crime in the suburbs. He promised to "industrially clean" council estates of "scum". The opposition Socialist Party criticised his rhetoric. But he has also come under fire from his own camp. Azouz Begag, the Equal Opportunities Minister whose background is Algerian, asked him to stop using "warlike and imprecise language". "I talk with real words," Mr Sarkozy said. "When someone shoots at policemen, he's not just a youth, he's a lout, full stop."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4402012.stm
The meeting came amid a damaging public row in the centre-right government after Equal Opportunities Minister Azouz Begag openly criticised the interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, for calling the protesters "scum". Le Nouvel Observateur wonders whether Mr Begag, a junior minister, was sent into the political fray by his political patron, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who is expected to be Mr Sarkozy's arch-rival in the 2007 presidential elections.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2005/10/23/2003277041
The chief EU trade negotiator, Peter Mandelson, criticized both sides of the Atlantic on Friday, lashing out at the US for blaming stalled trade talks on Europe, while accusing France of using hyperbole to try to delay an overhaul of agricultural subsidies... The French interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, used that argument last Thursday, writing in Les Echos, a business newspaper, that additional subsidy cuts were "not acceptable." ...Mandelson also hit back at France, which has accused him of overstepping his mandate as trade commissioner. He said that Sarkozy's opinion piece in Les Echos amounted to "hyperbole" and that he would not go beyond the limits of the farm reforms agreed to by the EU in 2003... "We are not afraid of being isolated or standing alone," said Nicolas de la Grandville, spokesman for the French representation to the EU. He said that France was making its case now to avoid having to use a "nuclear option" later. Mandelson came under pressure from France after he offered subsidy cuts of 70 percent, up from 65 percent, in response to a US offer to cut subsidies by 60 percent and tariffs by 55 percent to 90 percent.
Although there is a deep dislike of the French through much of red-state America ( and much of "non-core" Europe), many still cling to the outdated notion that France is an historical and cultural ally, simply in opposition for the time being. This view more or less prevailed in US foreign policy from the Kennedy administration on. By the way, it was not shared by Eisenhower and Dulles who had a little more hands-on experience with the French.
In unpleasant reality, however, after the end of the Miitterand administration, the dirigiste class of France, which is far smaller and more cohesive than non French speakers usually realize, reached a strong consensus of declaring and executing war against America. This goes far beyond the Anti-americanism which the useful media idiots publicize. It goes well beyond the anti-Americanism of the British left, which hopes for and rejoices in American discomfort. This is not the place and time to recount the many practical effects of this French effort; most observers of world events can think of at least a few consequences if they try. This war by France has been limited only by its own weakness and shortcomings. Areas of cooperation, such as in Syria at the moment, are purely tactical. La guerre continue. Those who fail to evaluate France as an enemy, not merely an opponent, will have their pockets picked and their bodies bruised in this unacknowledged war.
Riots in Paris
Posted by Wrangler22
On Bloggers & Personal 11/02/2005 8:25:41 AM PST · 18 replies · 219+ views
Conservative Thoughts | November 2, 2001 | John Kuethe
Violent riots erupted in France six days ago and have continued unabated. They were initially sparked by the deaths of two Arab teenagers, in the poor, mainly Muslim suburbs of Paris, where police hesitate to venture. The despair, anger and deep-rooted criminality have become a breeding ground for Islamic extremists. French President Jacques Chirac came out Wednesday and called for to use a firm hand to curtail what may become a "dangerous situation." "The law must be applied firmly and in a spirit of dialogue and respect," Chirac said at a Cabinet meeting. "The absence of dialogue and an escalation...
Paris is Burning
Posted by Wrangler22
On Bloggers & Personal 11/03/2005 6:53:27 AM PST · 16 replies · 127+ views
Conservative Thoughts | November 3, 2001 | John Kuethe
The Parisian suburbs which are heavily populated by North African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children, continued to be the scene of increasingly violent riots. Youths ramped up the violence for a seventh straight night. Despite the presence of armed riot police, they committed acts ranging from clashing with police to burning vehicles in at least 10 Paris region towns. Their tried and tru policy of appeasement has prevented them from integrating the muslim immigrants into their society. Now they have entire communities that are little Islamo-fascist development centers. As was the case in WWI and WWII, the French...
Riots erupt in more Paris suburbs
Posted by Panerai
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 1:36:49 AM PST · 33 replies · 923+ views
BBC News | 11/02/2005
Rioting has spread to more suburbs of Paris on a sixth night of unrest in the outskirts of the French capital.At Aulnay-sous-Bois, cars were torched as gangs of youths hurled stones at police in riot gear, who responded by firing rubber bullets. But the epicentre of the trouble, Clichy-sous-Bois, was said to be calm, with a heavy police presence. The unrest was sparked by the death of two boys whom locals think were fleeing police, despite official denials. Correspondents say anger has been fuelled by a tear gas canister hurled into the town's mosque on Sunday night, and arrests. French...
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace Alert )
Posted by backhoe
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 4:00:57 AM PST · 70 replies · 1,707+ views
various FR links & stories | 11-02-05 | the heavy equipment guy
†13 Arrested In Paris Suburb Riots † ††Night Number Six of Paris Riots † †Unrest spreads to nine French towns †http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11 †Riots erupt in more Paris suburbs † †Violence spreads around capital (Froggy violence Alert!!) † † †Riots expose France's fault lines † †Selective Muslim Silence † † †France is Burning (Muslims burn Paris; MSM ignores it to protect Religion of Peace) † † Potential Hot Spots: France Is Burning (Europe's multiculturalism fail & going down in flames) † †France defends policies after riot (Finally admitting Muslims are rioting) † †Several days of Muslim Riots in Denmark (Not only in...
Cars torched as Paris suburb riots spread
Posted by libstripper
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 4:21:19 AM PST · 44 replies · 1,166+ views
MSNBC | Nov. 2, 2005 | Reuters
PARIS - Dozens of vehicles were set ablaze in a sixth night of rioting in poor Paris suburbs, officials said on Wednesday, as youth unrest caused mounting strains within Franceís conservative government. A heavy police presence kept a tense order in Clichy-sous-Bois, where the clashes broke out last week after two teenagers of African origin were electrocuted while apparently fleeing the police.
Anger Spreads Across Paris Suburbs After Death of Muslim Boys
Posted by millefleur
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 5:38:12 AM PST · 77 replies · 1,699+ views
Washington Post Foreign Service | Nov.2, 2005 | Molly Moore
PARIS, Nov. 2 -- Clashes between angry youths and French police spread to at least six Paris suburbs Tuesday night, with police firing tear gas and rubber-coated bullets at street fighters who lobbed Molotov cocktails and burned cars and trash bins...
The 'Paris Revolt' In Pictures.
Posted by HHKrepublican_2
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 11:56:25 AM PST · 150 replies · 5,044+ views
BBC news and SKY news
The Dangers of Multiculturalism...On the sixth night of revolting in Paris, violence spread from the initial flashpoint of Clichy-sous-Bois into a host of other areas in the north and east of the city.Scores of vehicles were burned by angry youths, most from disaffected north African communities.
Seventh Day of Violence Erupts Near Paris
Posted by Pikamax
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 3:30:31 PM PST · 59 replies · 1,056+ views
Guardian | 11/02/05 | JOCELYN GECKER
Seventh Day of Violence Erupts Near Paris Wednesday November 2, 2005 11:01 PM AP Photo BRI103 By JOCELYN GECKER Associated Press Writer CLICHY-SOUS-BOIS, France (AP) - Menacing youths smoked cigarettes in doorways Wednesday and hulks of burned cars littered the tough streets of Paris' northeastern suburbs scarred by a week of riots that left residents on edge and sent the government into crisis mode. In a seventh consecutive night of skirmishes, young people threw rocks at police Wednesday in six suburbs in the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris - about a 40-minute drive from the Eiffel Tower. In one of...
DFU SONG: I Love Paris (the Muslims love seeing Paris burn)
Posted by doug from upland
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 4:51:04 PM PST · 11 replies · 243+ views
DFU SONGS | 11-2005 | Lyrics, Doug from Upland
MIDI - I LOVE PARIS Why do Muslims all love Paris...someday we will own the place We've been busy procreating...while we're hating We are laughing as it's burning...they are squirming Why do Muslims all love Paris...'cause the French run from a fight Allah Akbar...we'll be chanting Allah Akbar We love flags that are white
US Troops Prepare to Deploy to Maintain Order in Paris - satire
Posted by No Longer Free State
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 4:51:58 PM PST · 35 replies · 656+ views
November 02, 2005 | No Longer Free State
BSNN has learned that the Defense Department is mobilizing troops and planning operations to restore order in the capitol city of the Europpean province of France following a straight week of rioting that the provincial government is either unwilling or unable to quell. An unnamed White House official, who insisted we tell you he is not Carl Rove or Scooter Libby, said, "Our recent experiences in dealing with hostile, ungovernable violent nations in Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq have prepared us for dealing with the Chirac government. Plus, our experiences in the Islamic world will make it easier to...
Six Nights Of Riots In Paris Ghetto Split Chirac Cabinet
Posted by blam
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 5:31:01 PM PST · 82 replies · 1,440+ views
The Telegraph (UK) | 11-3-2005 | Henry Samuel
Six nights of riots in Paris ghetto split Chirac cabinet By Henry Samuel in Clichy-sous-Bois(Filed: 03/11/2005) The French government was reeling yesterday after six nights of rioting which have exposed a split in the cabinet over how to deal with poverty and immigration in the dilapidated Paris suburbs. As authorities cleaned up the debris of another bout of violence, including the wrecks of 250 cars burned out on Tuesday night, both the prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, and the interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, put off foreign trips to deal with the rioting. Youths on the Paris estates have promised ë40...
Seventh night of Paris violence
Posted by untenured
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 6:58:10 PM PST · 40 replies · 923+ views
BBC | Nov. 3, 2005 | None
Violence has flared for a seventh night in immigrant communities to the north-east of Paris. Youths in several areas have been roaming the streets with sticks and bottles and dozens of vehicles have been set alight during the night. The unrest came after ministers held crisis talks on the situation and the president appealed for calm. Violence broke out following the death of two teenagers. Locals say they were fleeing police, which authorities deny. On Wednesday night police clashed with youths in nine areas of the Seine-Saint-Denis department - where the violence began last week. A school and shops have...
French government in crisis mode, tries to cope with suburban Paris riots
Posted by speelurker
On News/Activism 11/02/2005 7:03:50 PM PST · 60 replies · 1,428+ views
CBC World News | Nov 2, 2005 | JOCELYN GECKER
CLICHY-SOUS-BOIS, France (CP) - France's government went into crisis mode Wednesday to deal with spreading rioting in the suburbs of Paris, with the prime minister postponing a trip to Canada and the president calling for calm. In tough northeastern suburbs around Clichy-sous-Bois, where the accidental deaths of two teenagers last week first prompted angry youths to rampage, the hulks of burned-out cars littered streets and young men prepared for a seventh consecutive night of fighting with riot police. Leaders at Clichy-sous-Bois' mosque prayed for peace and asked parents to keep teenagers off the streets. The violence, which spread to at...
Paris Riots spread throughout north-east (7th Night of Violence and Burning)
Posted by Southack
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 12:23:12 AM PST · 264 replies · 5,826+ views
Radio New Zealand | Nov 03, 2005 | staff
Paris riots spread throughout north-east Posted at 8:20pm on 3 Nov 2005 Violence broke out in impoverished Paris suburbs for the seventh straight night, with rioters clashing with police and leaving a trail of torched cars and vandalised buildings. Observers are pointing to France's failure to address deep problems of poverty and immigration, including tensions with its Muslim minority. In Aulnay-sous-Bois in the worst-affected area of Seine-Saint-Denis, a police station was briefly besieged by gangs of youths while a gymnasium and a garage were set ablaze and a commercial centre vandalised. A total of 40 vehicles, including two buses, were...
Fresh violence hits Paris suburbs
Posted by fifthvirginia
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 3:38:50 AM PST · 39 replies · 907+ views
BBC News | 03 NOV 05 | BBC News
Rioting youths in Paris suburbs have burned cars and fought police for the seventh consecutive night.
Shots fired at police, fire crews shot at rioting in Paris suburbs spreads.
Posted by Pikamax
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 5:59:42 AM PST · 75 replies · 1,305+ views
AP | 11/03/0 | Jamey Keaten
Shots fired at police, fire crews shot at rioting in Paris suburbs spreads. Jamey Keaten Canadian Press Thursday, November 03, 2005 AULNAY-SOUS-BOIS, France (AP) - France's government faced mounting pressure Thursday as suburban unrest took on dangerous new momentum, with shots fired at police and fire crews as they battled youths who torched car dealerships, public buses and a school. Four shots were fired at police and firemen in four different towns, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the troubled Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the week of violence has been concentrated. No one was injured in...
Paris Is Burning-France needs to integrate its Muslim underclass. Bonne chance.
Posted by SJackson
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 6:42:57 AM PST · 86 replies · 1,444+ views
Wall St. Journal Europe | 11-3-05
Every night for the past week, the suburbs of Paris have been a showcase of Europe's failure to integrate its immigrants. Most of the rioting youths from the projects in Seine-Saint-Denis were born in France to African and North African parents and speak French. Yet these second-generation immigrants feel little attachment to France, much less a bright future in it, and therein lies the problem. Home to Europe's largest Muslim community -- nearly a tenth of its 60 million people -- France is the main testing ground of the Continent's ability to bring these recent newcomers into the fold. Germany,...
Muslim youth unrest escalates, encircles Paris (More Pictures and text)
Posted by HHKrepublican_2
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 6:54:57 AM PST · 176 replies · 4,008+ views
All Cities marked here have had rioting, the worst is in the "Sous-Bois" Rioting youths opened fire on police and set dozens of vehicles ablaze in a seventh night of violence in Paris. In escalating scenes of unrest, four shots were fired while gangs besieged a police station, set fire to a car showroom and threw petrol bombs. At least 15 people were arrested and nine injured across north-east Paris. France's government is facing mounting criticism of its handling of the riots, which began after two teenagers of African origin died one week ago. -BBC news
French PM Puts Off Canadian Visit as Paris Riots Spread
Posted by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 7:17:35 AM PST · 20 replies · 309+ views
Voice of America | 2 November 2005 | Staff
French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin has postponed a planned visit to Canada, after rioting that began outside Paris last week spread through the city's largely Muslim-inhabited suburbs. Mr. de Villepin told lawmakers Wednesday the government is fully mobilized and that he is indefinitely postponing his planned trip. Interior Minister Nikolas Sarkozy also canceled scheduled visits to Afghanistan and Pakistan next week. Earlier, President Jacques Chirac called for calm and measures to bring the riots under control. French police today said they detained 34 people in the sixth consecutive night of rioting. Rioters torched cars and clashed with police who...
"Big brothers" mediate in riot-hit Paris slums
Posted by ncountylee
On News/Activism 11/03/2005 8:12:09 AM PST · 11 replies · 336+ views
Reuters | 03 Nov 2005 | Tom Heneghan
PARIS, Nov 3 (Reuters) - Whenever peace returns to Paris's riot-torn suburbs, part of the credit should go to the "big brothers" out on the streets trying to calm down young hotheads and cushion the worst of the tough police crackdown. These social workers, coaches and other mentors play a key role in the slums, watching over violent teenagers, mostly sons of North African and black immigrants, who reject teachers and police seen as part of an oppressive white French majority. It's not clear "les grands freres" will get much official thanks, however. In the heated political debate triggered by...
you reap what you sow
Current 'Flash' on Drudge:
Rioting in French suburbs 'well organized'
Thu Nov 03 2005 14:56:34 ET
French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday that the riots in several Paris suburbs over the previous night were "not spontaneous" but rather "well organized."
"What we saw in the department of Seine-Saint-Denis overnight was not spontaneous, it was perfectly organized. We are looking into by whom and how," Sarkozy told French news channel i-tele.
The interior minister also said the government would not allow "troublemakers, a bunch of hoodlums, think they can do whatever they want" in the country.
A force of 1,000 police were assigned late Thursday to Seine-Saint-Denis, following the previous night of violence which affected about half of the 40 towns in the department, mostly communities of immigrants from Africa, officials said.
Leftists vs Islam!
pass le popcorne.
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It's past time to tell these Muslims to go back where they came from.
Nothing to see here but history repeating itself, so move along people...
"From the confines of Jerusalem and the city of Constantinople a horrible tale has gone forth and very frequently has been brought to our ears: namely, that a race from the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God, a generation, forsooth, which has neither directed its heart nor entrusted its spirit to God, has invaded the lands of those Christians and has depopulated them by sword, pillage, and fire. . . ."
---Pope Urban II, Proclamation at Clermont, 1095
French media also reported attacks on a school and a bus in northern Paris and on vehicles in two poor areas to the west of the capital. Several cars were also reported to gave been set ablaze in Dijon, the first city outside Paris to be hit.
The French are so screwed...
Remember the 60's movie, Is Paris Burning? (It was a line spoken by a Nazi general, wondering if his orders to torch Paris to a crisp were being followed.)
France, the nation which refused to participate in ousting Saddam Hussein, since her top political leaders in Paris were making a bundle of $$$$ off Saddam's UN 'oil-for-food' corruption.
