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Shots fired at police, fire crews shot at rioting in Paris suburbs spreads.
AP ^ | 11/03/0 | Jamey Keaten

Posted on 11/03/2005 5:59:42 AM PST by Pikamax

Shots fired at police, fire crews shot at rioting in Paris suburbs spreads.

Jamey Keaten Canadian Press

Thursday, November 03, 2005

AULNAY-SOUS-BOIS, France (AP) - France's government faced mounting pressure Thursday as suburban unrest took on dangerous new momentum, with shots fired at police and fire crews as they battled youths who torched car dealerships, public buses and a school.

Four shots were fired at police and firemen in four different towns, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the troubled Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the week of violence has been concentrated.

No one was injured in the shooting, officials said.

Rioters set fire to 315 cars in the Paris area overnight, half of them in Seine-Saint-Denis, where nine people were injured, officials said.

The heavy presence of armed riot police did little to deter violence as youths rampaged for a seventh consecutive night. Acts ranging from clashes with police to torching of vehicles were reported in at least 10 Paris-region towns.

The riots have highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs. Frustration has been simmering in housing projects to the north and northeast of Paris, heavily populated by North African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children who struggle with high unemployment, crime, poverty and a lack of opportunity.

In the tough northeastern suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, gangs of youths torched a Renault car dealership and incinerated at least a dozen cars, a supermarket and a local gymnasium.

In nearby La Courneuve, two shots were fired at riot police, said Cordet. A third shot targeted firefighters in Noisy-le-Sec, and a forth was aimed at a fire crew in Saint-Denis, home to the Stade de France stadium that hosted the final of the 1998 soccer World Cup.

Bands of youths forced a team of France-2 television reporters out of their car in the suburb of Le Blanc Mesnil, then flipped the vehicle and set it on fire.

Unrest spilled over to public housing projects in the area, where police engaged in a cat-mouse game with youths, who would break car windows and toss petrol-bombs inside before running away.

Police in the Seine-Saint-Denis region detained 23 rioters Wednesday night and have taken a total of 98 people into custody since the rioting started, Cordet said.

France's government was in crisis mode, with Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who postponed a visit to Canada this week in order to deal with the crisis, calling a string of emergency meetings with government officials throughout the day Thursday.

One was a working lunch with Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who has been accused of inflaming the crisis with his tough talk and police tactics. Sarkozy has called the rioters "scum" and vowed to "clean out" troubled suburbs, language that some say further alienated their residents.

Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades.

"We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.

The unrest has laid bare France's failure to fully integrate its millions of immigrants, many of whom are trapped in the poverty and grinding unemployment of low-cost, sometimes decrepit, suburban housing projects sometimes controlled by gangs dealing drugs and stolen goods and where police seldom venture.

The rioting began last Thursday in the northeastern suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois after the accidental deaths of the two teenagers who electrocuted when they hid in a power substation because they thought police were chasing them. A third was injured.

Officials have said police were not pursuing the boys, aged 15 and 17.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; insurgency; parisriots; rop
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1 posted on 11/03/2005 5:59:43 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

I would destroy Notre Dame myself rather than see it become a mosque.


2 posted on 11/03/2005 6:00:59 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Pikamax

It's all about "poverty." /sarcasm


3 posted on 11/03/2005 6:02:02 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Pikamax

Let them eat cake....


4 posted on 11/03/2005 6:02:13 AM PST by There You Go Again
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To: Pikamax
The french will surrender today....

that's my prediction...
5 posted on 11/03/2005 6:02:15 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: Pikamax

And France is worried about the US destroying their culture?


6 posted on 11/03/2005 6:02:27 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus
Oh, they'll still blame us. You see, if only George Bush had left the Muslims alone, they wouldn't be so angry...

/sarcasm

7 posted on 11/03/2005 6:04:18 AM PST by kromike
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To: Pikamax
"The heavy presence of armed riot police did little to deter violence as youths rampaged for a seventh consecutive night. Acts ranging from clashes with police to torching of vehicles were reported in at least 10 Paris-region towns."

Does France still have an army? Or, is that to politically incorrect?

8 posted on 11/03/2005 6:04:23 AM PST by blam
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To: Pikamax

Diversity is our greatest strength!

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

9 posted on 11/03/2005 6:04:24 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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"Shots fired at police, fire crews shot at rioting in Paris suburbs spreads."

Wonderful, simply wonderful. The cops are useless, the French are going to have to call out their Army.

Wait... on 2nd thought

10 posted on 11/03/2005 6:05:42 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: Pikamax
The riots have highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs. Frustration has been simmering in housing projects to the north and northeast of Paris, heavily populated by North African and Muslim immigrants and their French-born children who struggle with high unemployment, crime, poverty and a lack of opportunity.

Is this a news report or an editorial? Someone, hand me a violin.

11 posted on 11/03/2005 6:05:46 AM PST by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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No one was injured in the shooting, officials said.

What?!
That shows that this was a faux riot.
All show.
I bet the French spoken was parfait. Harhar....er, I mean, ar, ar.

Now if there were "shots fired" in Russia, Germany, the Baltics or Balkans....people would be severely injured or dead. THOSE folks know how to riot.

French riots...pah!

12 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:00 AM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It is never right to do wrong.)
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Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades. "We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.
THIS right here is the problem. The whole Democrat/Socialist approach of "We have not done enough" is what has ruined black people's chances of becoming successful individuals as opposed to a baby-rewarding welfare collective of the unwed. "We have not done enough for them." Keep trying. This is what you get.
13 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:06 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: Pikamax
How many plasma TVs were taken?
14 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:20 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: Pikamax

Interesting that Iran's ratcheting up the rhetoric and these riots coincide.

Or is that just too obvious and I'm a little slow.


15 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:27 AM PST by OpusatFR (Yes, I'm having a bad day. Thank you for asking.)
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To: There You Go Again
How about......

"A WIFF OF GRAPESHOT!"

17 posted on 11/03/2005 6:06:37 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Pikamax
Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades.

The fact that France even has a government position titled "Minister of Social Cohesion" tells me that their problems began long before the first rioter set fire to a car last week.

18 posted on 11/03/2005 6:09:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
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To: dagoofyfoot

They would have surrendered already, but they don't know who to hand their surrender to.


19 posted on 11/03/2005 6:10:05 AM PST by SMARTY
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One was a working lunch with Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who has been accused of inflaming the crisis with his tough talk and police tactics. Sarkozy has called the rioters "scum" and vowed to "clean out" troubled suburbs, language that some say further alienated their residents.

I'd feel alienated too if I were a rioting scumbag, and someone threatened to use police tactis to 'clean out' my neighborhood. I'd probably assume they were talking about me.

20 posted on 11/03/2005 6:10:25 AM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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