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ACLU: 21 Killed in U.S. Custody
Fox News ^ | October 25, 2005

Posted on 10/25/2005 7:40:41 AM PDT by Irontank

At least 21 detainees who died while being held in U.S. custody in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed, many during or after interrogations, according to an analysis of Defense Department data by the American Civil Liberties Union (search). The analysis, released Monday, looked at 44 deaths described in records obtained by the ACLU. Of those, the group characterized 21 as homicides, and said at least eight resulted from abusive techniques by military or intelligence officers, such as strangulation or "blunt force injuries," as noted in the autopsy reports. The 44 deaths represent a partial group of the total number of prisoners who have died in U.S. custody overseas; more than 100 have died of natural and violent causes.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aclu; communism; enemywithin
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To: Irontank
If you look at the percentages, I think far less have died in our prisons than in their's
21 posted on 10/25/2005 7:54:18 AM PDT by prouddvldog
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To: Irontank

Should change name to JCLU. (Jihadist Civil Liberties Union)


22 posted on 10/25/2005 7:54:35 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: SittinYonder

"We would think that the Islamofascists were cutting off heads. Oh wait, they already are. "


That was kind of my point... other people probably think the same thing about us. Are we getting enough intelligence info to justify making the world think we are the same?


23 posted on 10/25/2005 7:54:56 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: Irontank

bttt - ACLU, go "help" somebody else


24 posted on 10/25/2005 7:54:57 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Beth528
Nick isn't a good example. (that may have been staged)

Let's use Danny Pearl instead.

Then a bump to your point.

25 posted on 10/25/2005 7:58:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Irontank

I'd like to give the ACLU a blunt force injury. Taking away the law that allows them to collect fees from my tax money would do it.


26 posted on 10/25/2005 8:00:51 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Irontank
Hmmnnnnn, three thousand dead in America and what was the ACLU doing then???

APPLAUDING!

ACLU - Licking Kool-aid packets every where they go. Just look for the green lips... Or Red, orange, purple...
27 posted on 10/25/2005 8:01:54 AM PDT by Danae (Most Liberals don't drink the Kool-aide, they are licking the powder right out of the packet.)
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To: Irontank
American
Communism
Lover's
Union

Anti-
Constitution
Liberal's
Union

Absolutely
Corrupt
Lawyer's
Union

Anti-
Christian
Litigator's
Union

etc. etc.

28 posted on 10/25/2005 8:02:33 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Irontank
21 Killed in U.S. Custody

A good, but slow, start.

29 posted on 10/25/2005 8:03:37 AM PDT by VRWCmember (hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative, and loaded with vitriol about everything liberal.)
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To: Irontank

Only 21? Uh, that puts us about 119,999,979 behind their heroes Stalin and Mao! No wonder they're upset.

Note:I did not make up the 119,999,979.


30 posted on 10/25/2005 8:04:44 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Irontank
How many have been killed by in terrorists custody? How many have been killed in the custody of the communists that started the aclu?
31 posted on 10/25/2005 8:08:05 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Still angry after all these years!)
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To: Irontank
Only 21? Compared to almost 3,000 on 9/11........
32 posted on 10/25/2005 8:10:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (Life, alas, is very drear. Up with the glass! Down with the beer!)
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To: Irontank

I guess the ACLU forgot to count the dead from Saddam's prisons. Geez.


33 posted on 10/25/2005 8:14:56 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Irontank

The tiny cross haters are at it again.


34 posted on 10/25/2005 8:16:08 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: Irontank

wait til the ACLU finds out that we've been burying these POS in pig fat! LMAO


35 posted on 10/25/2005 8:16:45 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: gondramB
What would we think if 20 Americans died during interrogations?

We would think that IslamoFascists terrorists beheaded them! And they did. Try counting how many Zakawi has beheaded and then get back to me.

Or, better yet, think about our Air Force pilots during the First Gult War. They were beaten by Saddam's two brutal sons on a regular basis. The woman pilot was raped and probably so were the men pilots. Did you have sympathy for our guys back then? Did you speak up back then?

36 posted on 10/25/2005 8:18:58 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: sgtbono2002
and how would you do that?

I am surprised there isn't a movement to do that already.

37 posted on 10/25/2005 8:19:09 AM PDT by bubman
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To: Calpernia
I agree Danny Pearl,but also think the scum ACLU should be held responsible since they haven't gone after anyone but the American Service people..Isn't it about time this organization was kicked out of our country..Oh how I wish!
38 posted on 10/25/2005 8:19:17 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Beth528

I think that is being worked on:

FBI says it has files on ACLU, Greenpeace, other rights groups
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445131/posts


39 posted on 10/25/2005 8:22:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BushisTheMan

" We would think that IslamoFascists terrorists beheaded them! And they did. Try counting how many Zakawi has beheaded and then get back to me.

Or, better yet, think about our Air Force pilots during the First Gult War. They were beaten by Saddam's two brutal sons on a regular basis. The woman pilot was raped and probably so were the men pilots. Did you have sympathy for our guys back then? Did you speak up back then?"

I'm not sure I knew about those specific cases but I have far more sympathy for Americans, particularly Americans risking their lives to defend the American way.

My point was strategic. The world most likely thinks the same things about us when prisoners are killed in U.S. custody that we think about others who kill captured Americans. We would tremendous tactical advantage from intelligence obtained this way to compensate us for the world equating us with the other side.

Like it or not, we don't have the troops to accomplish all we want to get done in this world. 90% of situations are resolved by American influence and threat not directly by troops.

There is also the issue that as a Christian, I know that torture is wrong. Jesus was alive in barbaric times where other people used torture and never endorsed this sort of behavior.


40 posted on 10/25/2005 8:26:55 AM PDT by gondramB
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