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Mystery-Woman Miers (Has Supported ICC, Gay Adoptions, Tax Hikes; Some "Conservative," Huh...?)
World Net Daily ^ | 10/03/2005 | Joseph Farrah

Posted on 10/23/2005 5:34:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

WASHINGTON – Harriet Miers, President Bush's nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court to replace Sandra Day O'Connor, is on record as supporting the establishment of the International Criminal Court, homosexual adoptions, a major local tax increase and women in combat, WorldNetDaily has learned.

While some conservative leaders and organizations were stunned by the appointment, most were not alarmed by the lack of a paper trail by the nominee who has never served as a judge at any level.

But a profile of her positions as a leader of the American Bar Association, a Dallas city councilwoman and as presidential counselor is unlikely to ease the concerns of those who were expecting Bush to fulfill his promise to name a justice in the mold of Clarence Thomas or Antonin Scalia.

According to Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, Miers has taken positions as White House counsel that violate the law banning women in combat.

"As White House counsel, Ms. Miers either approved of the Department of Defense's illegal assignments of women in units required to be all-male, which is still continuing in violation of the law requiring notice to Congress in advance, or she was oblivious to the legal consequences of those assignments," she said.

Donnelly believes the actions of Miers could lead directly to a future court ruling requiring women to register with the Selective Service for the draft because they are now being, against the wishes of Congress, assigned to land combat.

"I am very disappointed by the president's choice," she said. "Ms. Miers does not have a judicial 'paper trail,' but her record as White House counsel is a legitimate cause for concern. Democrats and liberals who were willing to use the military for purposes of social experimentation have reason to be pleased."

Donnelly also concludes that Miers approved the Bush administrations retention of President Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" regulations, which, she says, are different from the 1993 law passed by Congress

Meanwhile, during Miers long affiliation with the American Bar Association, she submitted a 1999 report to the ABA's house of delegates that included recommendations to develop and establish an International Criminal Court and the enactment of laws and public policy providing that the sexual orientation of adults be no bar to adoption of children.

Under the heading Family Law and subheading Adoption, the document states: "Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child."

Also included, under the heading International Law and Practice, is a recommendation for "the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court."

Along with the proposed agenda was a memo, dated Oct. 28, 1998, that explained the document.

"The Committee urges all Delegates to review this list for items of interest to their constituencies, and to act as the catalyst for further contact and action so that each entity will have the earliest opportunity for consideration and input."

The memo is signed by Miers as chairwoman of the Select Committee of the House.

As a city councilwoman, Miers also said Dallas had a responsibility to pay for AIDS education and patient services. And she courted the support of the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas in her successful 1989 campaign.

In addition, economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council.


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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yeh, the only 'debunking' I saw were 'stealth' remarks about the 'stealth' candidate.

We are still only getting repackaging; we are still not getting any substance about Miers, except that she is 'accomplished'. Still just vague adjectives.


101 posted on 10/23/2005 7:44:06 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ez

If that is Chucky's position, than for once I do agree with him.


102 posted on 10/23/2005 7:44:40 AM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
>>>>>>As a city councilwoman, Miers also said Dallas had a responsibility to pay for AIDS education and patient services. And she courted the support of the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas in her successful 1989 campaign.

Here is Miers application. She checked NO. Miers is NOT courting the support of the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas.

Application to Lesbian/Gay Coalition from Harriet Miers

103 posted on 10/23/2005 7:58:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: johnny7

I said that a few weeks ago, but he looks more like Fredo every day. Rove is Hagan. Cheney is Clemenza, Rumsfeld is Sonny.

It really is the Godfather playing out. I'm just waiting for a Don Vito to step up. What we have now is pathetic.


104 posted on 10/23/2005 8:03:20 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You know, I've been pretty quiet about Harriet Miers. However, that's because I've been trying to read all the information about her. Just because she didn't have a "judicial paper trail" wasn't an absolute reason not to consider her. Her views on other subjects leave me deeply concerned, though.

Thanks for posting this.


105 posted on 10/23/2005 8:04:04 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Dane
Hmmmm...

Your post #27 says the following:
"The same liberties that ensure a free society make the innocent vulnerable to those who prevent rights and privileges and commit senseless and cruel acts," Miers wrote in Texas Lawyer when she was president of the state bar. "Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble ... access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance. "We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs," she concluded.

Harriet Miers, 1992
And yet the Newsmax article you are claiming as your source has no mention of "Harriet Miers, 1992".
So where did you get that date from?

Clearly you had another source for the quote which provided the date. It is quite odd that given the number of available sources for that quote, of which you obviously had more than one, that you would choose the selectively edited one to quote. Using an incomplete quote in this context is, at the very least, a sloppy and egregious oversight.

So you have succeeded in also implicating Newsmax for covering for Miers in their fawning praise of her, but of course we all know already that Newsmax are a bunch of amateurish hacks, which is why most of us won't use them as a source.

What you fail to do, however, is absolve yourself for citing a doctored quote in the first place.
106 posted on 10/23/2005 8:05:42 AM PDT by counterpunch (SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers now)
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To: Calpernia
Here is Miers application. She checked NO.

"1.) Do you believe that gay men and lesbians should have the same civil rights [POSTER'S NOTE: historically, this has always meant "marriage" and "adoption," insofar as homosexual advocacy groups are concerned] as non-gay men and women?"

Answer Checked: YES.

Again: some "conservative." Not.

107 posted on 10/23/2005 8:07:51 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: Dane; All
It appears the incomplete quote was at Newsmax.

I found this in a google search:

The same liberties that ensure a free society make the innocent vulnerable to those who prevent rights and privileges and commit senseless and cruel acts. Those precious liberties include free speech, freedom to assemble, freedom of liberties religion*, access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance. We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs.

[*Jim Lindgren at Volokh Conspiracy has posted an update indicating that the term "liberties" was an error in the online database.]
===

See the Volokh Conspiracy link for a complete discussion of the omission/retraction/update.

108 posted on 10/23/2005 8:08:16 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Dane
Dane..

It would seem that just perhaps you may not have debunked but may well have been defrauded by Bush and company????

109 posted on 10/23/2005 8:13:02 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

>>>>>POSTER'S NOTE: historically, this has always meant "marriage" and "adoption," insofar as homosexual advocacy groups are concerned] as non-gay men and women?"

Again. That is your note. Not what is said.

And it has not always meant marriage or adoption. The date of this application is 1989. Marriage and adoption equating to rights was not in consideration in 1989.


110 posted on 10/23/2005 8:13:28 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: markedmannerf

Vote Libertarian! It's pretty clear they can't win elections but you will have the satisfaction of knowing that you didn't continue to vote for the Demopublicans who are after all, one and the same party.


111 posted on 10/23/2005 8:18:47 AM PDT by kjo
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

These folks seem to think it inconsequential that Meirs would support affirmative action or gay adoption. The uotrage is that she has not actively opposed these causes. Where is her record of activism for conservative causes.

I'd like to see a nominee that has publically condemned abortion, affirmative action, gay adoption, etc.


112 posted on 10/23/2005 8:19:19 AM PDT by anton
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To: Calpernia

You're doing a good job.


113 posted on 10/23/2005 8:19:50 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Calpernia
From Federalist #76...

Those who have themselves reflected upon the subject, or who have attended to the observations made in other parts of these papers, in relation to the appointment of the President, will, I presume, agree to the position, that there would always be great probability of having the place supplied by a man of abilities, at least respectable. Premising this, I proceed to lay it down as a rule, that one man of discernment is better fitted to analyze and estimate the peculiar qualities adapted to particular offices, than a body of men of equal or perhaps even of superior discernment.

114 posted on 10/23/2005 8:20:07 AM PDT by ez (Extremism, like all else, should be applied in moderation.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Same simple, straightforward challenge applies for you as it has the other luckless contestant in this thread, thus far: SHOW it. This should be such a ridiculously easy task, really.

How about my simple challenge to you, go search on FR and read for yourself what others have posted. If you're too lazy, don't expect me to do 'your homework'. Many others have done the work already. You search for Farah and Miers. You follow the links. Farah has become a nutjob that no one with a thinking brain takes seriously anymore. But you don't bother doing your homework and guess what?... You look stupid.

As a city councilwoman, Miers also said Dallas had a responsibility to pay for AIDS education and patient services. And she courted the support of the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas in her successful 1989 campaign.

This is a blatant lie. Here is a link of the actual questionnaire she filled out, where she checked: "I am not seeking the endorsement of the LGPC". http://www.time.com/time/daily/docs/miersquest.pdf

The international court thing was debunked. As was posted by others:

It was memo for consideration for the ABA and she signed it I beleive as the secretary and didn't put an official position on it.

That list was a proposed itinerary that was submitted as topics for discussion - not a position statement, clear to anyone with the ability to read.

And on and on...

115 posted on 10/23/2005 8:22:02 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: cynicom

So long as GWB continues his love affair with illegals, DANE will keep the jar of vaseline readily available.


116 posted on 10/23/2005 8:22:19 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: TomGuy
[*Jim Lindgren at Volokh Conspiracy has posted an update indicating that the term "liberties" was an error in the online database.]
Well, now that is something interesting. LEXIS has the quote wrong, and thus every journalist quoting her has gotten it wrong as well.

However, bizarre typos aside, this only makes Miers slightly more qualified than before, and she is still running an insurmountable qualification deficit.
117 posted on 10/23/2005 8:27:00 AM PDT by counterpunch (SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers now)
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To: chris1

>>>>So long as GWB continues his love affair with illegals

Read up on human trafficking first.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=humantrafficking


118 posted on 10/23/2005 8:27:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
And it has not always meant marriage or adoption. The date of this application is 1989. Marriage and adoption equating to rights was not in consideration in 1989.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Etcetera, etcetera. (This doesn't even begin to scratch the surface, sadly. Five minutes with Google will teach you a great deal more than you evidently know concerning this topic.)

It's the eerily owlish, glassy-eyed denial of the Miers Apolgia Choir which disconcerts so many of us here, ultimately. I mean: she could perform a nude interpretive dance on behalf of the ICC, in front of the entire United States Senate assembled, on live television... and they'd STILL continue insisting that we all just "... trust Bush... trust Bush... trust Bush... *click*... WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR..."

119 posted on 10/23/2005 8:27:12 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: AmericaUnited
go search on FR and read for yourself what others have posted

[::nods::] In other words: you got nada. Gotcha.

120 posted on 10/23/2005 8:28:45 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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