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Flight 93 Crescent of Embrace remains unchanged.
Conservative Tymes (Blog) ^ | 10/27/05 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 10/23/2005 5:23:59 AM PDT by gridlock

Despite the outrage of the American public over the planned memorial to those who lost their lives fighting terrorists who hijacked their plane on 9/11/2001, the Flight 93 Memorial does not appear to have changed. The “Crescent of Embrace” design still remains on winning architect Paul Murdoch’s site, as well as the official Flight 93 Memorial site. On neither of these sites is any change mentioned or shown to the original design. Murdoch’s site does not indicate that any changes or “refinements” will be forthcoming. To refresh memories, the problem with the design was and is the Islamic crescent symbol. The memorial to the American citizens who appear to have thwarted Islamic terrorists from completing their plan to crash the commercial airliner into the White House deteriorated into a memorial to the terrorists—not to those who tried to stop them. Far beyond a slap in the face to the United States, American citizens who died protecting their country are being marginalized. Instead, it is the terrorists who are being commemorated. The totality of this abomination is staggering.

To be fair, I again contacted Chris Martin—Public Relations contact for the memorial project—to determine why there was nothing included on the official Flight 93 Memorial site, as to any change in the memorial’s design. My direct question was “Nothing seems to have changed nor is there any indication that the memorial will differ from [its] original design. Do you have any information or comments on this?” Mr. Martin’s response was: “The refinement process is still underway. The designer and the partner organizations are working together to refine various portions of the 2,200 acre site. We anticipate an announcement regarding these various refinements in the coming weeks.” Conspicuously absent from Martin’s response is any indication of the replacement of the “Crescent of Embrace”. This patently begs the question: “What are they refining?”

Perhaps I’ve just become too jaded over the years. But, trusting ambiguous answers to rather straightforward questions no longer seems the best course to follow. Also, the original National Forest Service (NFS) contact, Joanne Hanley, doesn’t appear to be listed anywhere—anymore. Note: In September, you flooded her email-box to the point that it was inoperable. Good show!

In fact, there does not appear to be anyone currently identified by the NFS, who is in charge of the project from the government’s end. My guess is that they don’t want to again receive thousands of emails and phone calls similar to those they received last month. However, below is a link to the NFS’ main contact site. To give all involved the benefit of the doubt, perhaps the design will change. But, in order to keep their feet to the fire and better ensure the Islamic crescent isn’t used my strong suggestion is that as many of us as possible call and write them, to inform the caretakers of this very important project that we haven’t forgotten.

We also need to powerfully and consistently let them know that we’re still watching and that we will not accept any “honors” to the ones who attacked us. Doing so would be both appalling to those who died and a strong indication to the terrorists that we believe they were right. Neither of these is even remotely acceptable.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crescent; crescentofdeath; crescentofembrace; flight93memorial; outrage; redcrescent
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To: JulieRNR21

They're acting like the bunch that refuses to believe AlGore lost in 2000


61 posted on 10/23/2005 3:38:45 PM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: CyberAnt; Calpernia; Becki

Thanks....I also sent an email to address in post #59.....as well as those in # 54.


62 posted on 10/23/2005 3:48:11 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON !!!)
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To: JulieRNR21

Thanks again Julie - I send them a note too.


63 posted on 10/23/2005 3:54:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: gridlock
A.)The design of this memorial includes a crescent made of trees

B.)I own a chainsaw

C.)Logical conclusion goes here

64 posted on 10/23/2005 3:59:04 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: JulieRNR21
Darn we're still at square one?. I will write again but I wonder why the blogger who spoke to Martin and then complained that

"Conspicuously absent from Martin’s response is any indication of the replacement of the “Crescent of Embrace”. This patently begs the question: “What are they refining?”

didn't ask HIM directly. An opportunity to get all the facts was missed here.

65 posted on 10/23/2005 4:04:26 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: muir_redwoods

The chainsaw might help later.....but for now please send some emails...see posts #54 & 59.....thanks.


66 posted on 10/23/2005 4:05:54 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON !!!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
A couple of bulldozers could eventually change it..

Close to my original thoughts.

Let them build it as the designer intended against all outrage by the taxpayers who will wind up paying for it.
Someone will torch it. I say let it burn.

67 posted on 10/23/2005 4:10:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: gridlock

Maybe it would help to think of it as a cocked bow, with a spiritual arrow aimed dead at Mecca.


68 posted on 10/23/2005 4:12:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: JulieRNR21; AmericanArchConservative; USF; Fred Nerks; Justanobody; Former Dodger; ariamne; ...
Ping #54!

Thanks for the ping to this very important thread.

Gov. Pataki "killed" the "freedom tower" PC insult to our intelligence... The SAME needs to happen with this outrageous tribute to the evil, mass murdering cult!

69 posted on 10/23/2005 4:13:01 PM PDT by jan in Colorado
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To: gridlock

I agree, it almost seems like they're going to just wait out the publicity and then go ahead as planned. I'm going to contact them right away.


70 posted on 10/23/2005 4:22:29 PM PDT by sanemom
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

"Liberal multiculturalists are bowing down to praise Allah, and trying to lick the rear ends of the Muslims in front of them."



They might as well build what you describe as a memorial, at least it would be honest.


71 posted on 10/23/2005 4:28:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: gridlock
If such a thing went up, I think the public would vandalize and dissemble it out of existence.

If it is ever built, it won't be allowed to stand long by the public IMO.
72 posted on 10/23/2005 4:29:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Calpernia
Thank you Calpernia!! I am sure they will be happy to hear from me.

Again.

=^)

Becki

73 posted on 10/23/2005 4:57:21 PM PDT by Becki (Save the environment. Eat a cow.)
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To: jan in Colorado
Thanks for the ping.

What I don't understand is the willingness to "let them build it using OUR MONEY" just so it can be defaced and/or destroyed.

That's the problem. Quit "allowing" these things to happen - period. Has Mr. Beamer been contacted? Why are those 40 families not mentioned?

74 posted on 10/23/2005 5:03:28 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ("The Constitution: It ain't long. It ain't complicated and only idiot lawyers can make it so." A D)
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To: JulieRNR21; All
I'd recommend contacting local newspapers, too. Few editors are aware of this.

As a former editor, I have some tips. I'd recommend writing a brief (concise) letter to the editor, including something very straightforward, like one of the graphics that illustrate the memorial crescent and the Islamic one. Mail this hardcopy and then send the information via e-mail for when they will be getting the hardcopy, and be sure to include a few the best URLs for getting info (like from LGF or RCP or http://zombietime.com/flight_93_memorial_project/). Check the newspaper's schedule, to see when they publish letters and editorials, etc. Be sure to leave the tinfoil off and make reasoned, not wildly emotional, arguments. If your note has a line ending in "!!!" then perhaps you need a break before trying a rewrite. :-)

Remember, read over what you're planning to send--before sending--and better yet, have someone else check it over. Be accurate, be concise, and use proper English--like you're sending a résumé--as you have only a few seconds in front of the editor's eyes (do you know how many nutcase press releases and letters I used to get?!? You don't want to get thrown into that pile....)

Remember, you want to let the editor know something he doesn't know about yet...inform him...don't beat him over the head with what you think he should believe.

Hope this helps!

75 posted on 10/23/2005 5:58:17 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: gridlock
Not only does the Islamic Crescent at Shanksville need to go back to the drawing board, but this abomination must be dropped from the current design:

Proposed "Tower of Voices" at Shanksville. Islamic minaret on the right (and left).

76 posted on 10/23/2005 6:02:46 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Gondring; jan in Colorado; AmericanArchConservative; USF; Fred Nerks; Justanobody; Former Dodger; ..

Very good advice indeed!

Thanks so much.

If everyone wrote a letter about this proposed "Crescent of Embrace" to their local papers.....the word would spread and the outcry against this abomination would be heard!


77 posted on 10/23/2005 8:11:36 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON !!!)
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To: JulieRNR21

Thanks for the ping!


78 posted on 10/23/2005 8:17:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JulieRNR21; Gondring; StAnDeliver; Jeff Head
Great ideas. I may have to wait until after the election to get on this.

Is there an on-line petition to sign? There was for the WTC memorial that I believe was quite helpful in that fight.

Also, take a look at the flags of islam before looking at or creating designs, here .....
http://markinmexico.blogspot.com/2005/09/crescent-of-embrace.html
79 posted on 10/23/2005 9:36:52 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ("The Constitution: It ain't long. It ain't complicated and only idiot lawyers can make it so." A D)
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To: Justanobody; Jeff Head

There are a few petitions calling for the building of a Memorial shown on this google search page:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=flight+93+memorial+petition&btnG=Google+Search

but none opposing the crescent design that I could find.

Perhaps Jeff Head could start one?


80 posted on 10/23/2005 9:42:43 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON !!!)
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