Posted on 09/26/2005 6:55:34 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
Book Claims Sex Abuse Not Harmful
by Steve Jordahl
Once again an attempt is made to promote the shocking theory that pedophilia is good.
An old heresy is surfacing again. Sexual contact between adults and children is normal, even beneficial to children and can serve as a useful tool in the mentoring process. In a new book about the role of homosexuality in ancient Greece and Rome, Temple University Professor Bruce Rind claims sex between adults and children can be beneficial. Therapist Joe Nicolosi has seen the "benefits" in dozens of victims.
"It lowers self-esteem, it lowers trust, it creates profound self-doubts about oneself, it creates future difficulties in terms of intimacy and trust."
The assertion that homosexuality and child sexual abuse were accepted norms of ancient cultures has no basis in fact.
"Absolutely not. That is a mythology promoted by gay activists to justify and to find legitimacy in their perversion."
But the fact that the view is published at all troubles Dr. Warren Throckmorton of Pennsylvania's Grove City College.
"With the publication of this book I am concerned that the effort here is to make this view mainstream."
Nicolosi claims homosexuality is at the root of most abuse of young boys, the focus of a great deal of the book, and points to the sex scandal in the Catholic Church as an example. Rind was published by the American Psychological Association several years ago, but public outcry was so severe the APA repudiated the paper. He did not return repeated calls for comment.
Sadly, that's very "normal".
My entire life was spent look for an avenger.
My parents did absolutely *nothing* about the uncle due to "family politics".
To this very day, I am cannot go to family gatherings because the uncle is always there.
And, like any properly brainwashed child, I never did anything about him, legally, because I was forbidden to do so.
[a good and obedient child, am I]
Consequently, I carried all the blame and guilt because, surely, if no one was ever punished for it but me, then I *must* be the one in the wrong, yes?
[sounds idiotic, I know, but that's how your mind is reshaped by it all]
I got lucky late in life.
I found a man who'll go medieval on anyone who even looks at me funny, never mind touching me.
That's all I ever wanted from life; someone who would protect me.
Ironically, my folks aren't especially crazy about hubby and his fierce defense of me is part of that resentment.
Why?
Because he constantly reminds them of how they failed to protect their own child.
it will be VERY difficult to convince me sex abuse in not harmful.
Before I respond, I want to make it perfectly clear I'm not trying to diminish child molesting or pederasty in ANY WAY! That being said, in the example you have, it's even worse, because it destroys the boundry of sex not having a place anywhere. I mean if the home and your family isn't a sex free zone, where is one?
There's an extra hot place in hell for cretins like your friend's father.
Owl_Eagle(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
As I never tire of pointing out, one of the great achievements of Christianity, was to greatly reduce, if not eliminate altogether, the sexual exploitation of women and children in the ancient world. Islam, on the other hand, working from the example of the prophet who married a wife who was six (with whom he consummated the marraige when she was nine), and with its treatment of women generally, has never had a problem with pedophilia and sexual exploitation.
I posted a similar thread but Free Republic must have deleted it because it contained a Chronicle of Higher Education article.
Hat tip to you. I saw the headline (and that it was pulled) and googled the professor's name to post this. Shoulda pinged you but I screwed up the spelling of your screen name in every conceivable way.
Owl_Eagle(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
Yeah,
it has to do with clear boundaries set on preserving innocence, maintaining trust and parents/adults being sources of comfort and refuge.
Molestation destroys all that...
We all pass from child to adult, but the lines should be clear, not blurred. The earlier the molestation starts, the more blurred or even non-existant the lines become.
So often molestors begat molestors.
time to play the devils advocate here. While i do not condone true perversion, incest , child abuse or other sexual crimes against children and adults. i do beleive americans are preoccupied with sexual behavior.
Is it not strange that you won't let your child see a movie because a nipple is exposed, but its ok if arnold blows away 300 men in gory scene after scene?
Is it not strange that an 18 year old young man can face prison time for dating a 16 yr old girl who is probably intellectually equivalent at that age?
Is sex not part of human nature and many of you had sexual experiences out of the normalcy of matrimony and you survived and lead a a healthy life without government intervention?
Is it not strange that in one state you can marry a 15 yr old , but in another face up to 90 years in jail?
I often thought that America has a huge preoccupation with sex and what goes on in private in that regard. Sex should not define your life , nor control it. Nor should it be controlled by outside forces.
I think openess about sex would see a reduction in sex crimes as it is human nature to desire what is taboo.
Many of you need to look into your own minds and realize what trips your sexual libido and decide if someone knew about that , how you would be looked at in american society.
I was molested when I was 12. It's haunted me for many decades.
If that is true I guess 147 grains of lead moving at 2700 feet per second into the cranium of a child molester will not hurt him or her.
Some of your points in your post are valid. However, be so kind as to address the issue of sexual predators that are adults whom prey upon the very young. We must protect our young from these vile creatures.
Read "Marketing of Evil" It explains how this came about. The odd thing is the homosexuals know what they are preaching is all a lie.
The left already glorifies sexual abuse. Look at their enthusiasm and approval of the movie Kinsey. Kinsey's research involved pedophiles who recorded the reactions of the children they abused. Judith Reisman ( I pray I have the name right) has written several very revealing articles about Kinsey.
You should also notice the manipulation of language. Pedastry is now called intergenerational sex. Control and change the language you can change people's perception.
At the heart of every liberal is a Stalinist waiting to get out.
RE: "I think openess about sex would result in a reduction of sex crimes as it is human nature to desire what is taboo..." You haven't thought through the implications of this statement. When one set of taboos is lifted, human nature leads people to seek out and transgress those taboos that remain. Unfortunately.
"So often molestors begat molestors."
But more often it begets people who would love to see molestors drawn and quartered on pay-per-view.
Homosexual Agenda Ping.
More on this very revealing and vile book...
(I'll be very busy in the next few weeks - do it yourself commentary time - have at it!)
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I'm very sorry to hear that.
Your statement:
"I think openess about sex would see a reduction in sex crimes as it is human nature to desire what is taboo."
Has been one of the reasons Kinsey the sick freak fraud pervert used to promote is false "research". For crying out loud, sex is more in the open currently than any time within recent history and very like ancient, except for some very weird pagan atrocious cultures.
The more people see, read about, hear about, and discuss sexually licentious topics - IN A MANNER SO AS TO BE SEXUALLY AROUSING - guess what! The more they are sexually aroused.
Discussing the merits or in this case the demerits of sexual theory or practices is logical and reasonable and is meant to help solve problems.
The idea that "we are all repressed Victorian prudes" is so laughable and phoney I can't believe you're trotting it out.
One's childhood is purloined, leaving behind in it's place, confusion, guilt and pain.
Child molestation isn't generally about "sex", per se.
It's about power over a weaker person.
It's a form of sadism and torture.
Is this the first of the defining of deviancy down...?
like the gay movement and their brainwashing tactics?
What the hell is going on..why even post such garbage..
but if it wasn't posted..it would hit these mamby-pampy
assinine reporters and liberal media...shame...Jake
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