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Book Claims Sex Abuse Not Harmful
Family News In Focus ^ | September 22, 2005 | Steve Jordahl

Posted on 09/26/2005 6:55:34 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel

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To: Owl_Eagle

University Professor Bruce Rind




Shocking! University Prof.

Next thing you know we will hear that this guy donates to ACLU and is a member NAMBLA...

Just shocking!(sarc)


61 posted on 09/26/2005 9:41:01 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: dirknowitzki

Unlikely that Dr David Adamany will be of much help. For one, he generally does not see such matters as being in the purview of a university president.

Also, Adamany is gay himself. While it is possible that Adamany is past the age at which he finds youth beguiling, there were very credible rumours that years ago in his previous post at Wayne State(Detroit) he was apprehended or at the least accosted by police late one night in Grosse Pointe in the company of a 14-year old boy.

Overall though, Adamany is an outstanding college president. His financial management skills are without peer. In my experience he also has an elegant taste in suits.


62 posted on 09/26/2005 9:45:30 AM PDT by TheEditor
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

God must've given him to me because I sure never would've found him on my own....;)


[seriously...the last place I'd have been caught back then was anywhere near a biker bar!]...LOL!


63 posted on 09/26/2005 9:49:17 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: robjna
Is it not strange that you won't let your child see a movie because a nipple is exposed, but its ok if arnold blows away 300 men in gory scene after scene?

I wouldn't let my kid see either.

Is it not strange that an 18 year old young man can face prison time for dating a 16 yr old girl who is probably intellectually equivalent at that age?

I've never heard of a single case where an 18 year old went to jail just for dating a 16 year old. Got an example of where that occurred?

Is sex not part of human nature

Yes.

and many of you had sexual experiences out of the normalcy of matrimony and you survived and lead a a healthy life without government intervention?

Depends on how loosely you define 'healthy'.

Is it not strange that in one state you can marry a 15 yr old , but in another face up to 90 years in jail?

You don't believe in states' rights? Besides,there are you talking about MARRIAGE, which is an insitution whereby two people agree to spend their life together. That has nothing to do with pedophilia, buddy.

Many of you need to look into your own minds and realize what trips your sexual libido and decide if someone knew about that , how you would be looked at in american society.

Maybe you need to figure out the difference between temptation and acting on same.

64 posted on 09/26/2005 9:50:30 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: najida

"(Like don't get me started on Little Miss Pageants!!!!)"


Those things are the most bizarre and horrible spectacles I've ever seen.

Tiny little girls tarted up like Playboy centerfolds and Vegas showgirls.
I guess I just don't "get it".



65 posted on 09/26/2005 9:51:39 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: proudofthesouth
Back when I was 12, I was coming home from a ball game (Red Wings) by myself, waiting for a bus transfer downtown, just up the street from the Eastman Theater. There was a public phone booth by the bus stop and the phone started ringing. Like an idiot, I answered the phone. The pervert who was calling, described how I looked and what I was wearing and proceeded to tell me what he would do to me if he got ahold of me. I hung up and ran like hell, four blocks to where there were more people waiting for the bus. I was scarred shi!!less. I didn't get physically molested, but the SOB got into my head and there's no way that any sort of pervert/child contact is beneficial. It messes with a kid for years.
66 posted on 09/26/2005 9:54:02 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: Salamander
He works in mysterious ways!!

I saw you new toy on your profile page. Here is ours after we finished redoing it. He laid it down 2 weeks after this photo was taken and now we have to repaint it and get new bars.

http://www.ultimaproducts.com/seven.htm This is the new motor we just put on it.

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67 posted on 09/26/2005 9:54:05 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Isn't virtually every pedophile also a victim of child abuse?

Which is altogether different than saying and not to suggest that all child abuse victims become pedophiles - this is clearly not the case.


68 posted on 09/26/2005 9:54:06 AM PDT by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time will pick himself up and carry on)
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To: proudofthesouth

Speechless. I'm very sorry what what you've had to deal with. The number of people victimized in this way is radically bigger than is reported. You're not alone.


69 posted on 09/26/2005 10:00:59 AM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border needs to be a MAJOR issue in 2006 and 2008)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

127 inches?!?

OMG!


The biggest hubby ever put in was an S&S 113 incher and -that- thing would go airborne....LOL!

He eventually triked it out and even then, it would raise the front end off the ground if you over-rolled the throttle....:))

The Sporty is gonna be triked out too because my balance really sucks.

I have a website set up for running progress reports.
When it gets started, I'll send you the link.

[you'll get to see me snarling and cursing as I airbrush "real flames" and who knows what other weird artwork on it]....LOL!


70 posted on 09/26/2005 10:14:05 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: rochester_veteran

That is one truly horrifying story.


71 posted on 09/26/2005 10:15:54 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander

It will fly.

He had ghost flames painted on it. And now it has to be redone. Oh well it could have been worse,


72 posted on 09/26/2005 10:16:11 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Yup, it could have.
I'm glad he's okay....:)

[ghost flames? whew...there's a big coupl'a bucks down the drain]....:-\


73 posted on 09/26/2005 10:19:08 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: rochester_veteran
but the SOB got into my head and there's no way that any sort of pervert/child contact is beneficial. It messes with a kid for years.

That is probably the best description of what happens. It isn't the physical aspects, it's the internal mind games, the loss of trust and safety etc that destroy a child. I mean, the world is suddenly full of monsters and no one is to be trusted.

74 posted on 09/26/2005 10:21:57 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: rochester_veteran
Something similar happened to me when I was in my early 20's. It was so scary and I had nightmares for years.

I can't imagine how much more devastating being molested as a child would be.
75 posted on 09/26/2005 10:28:31 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: najida
Exactly.

This will sound really stupid and irrational coming from a 44 year old woman, *but*, every time I get involved in discussing this topic, the "forever 10 years old kid" inside me worries that now something terrible will happen to my dogs or my parents.

Why?

Because I spent 5 years having that "threat" instilled in me, should I ever be so stupid as to "tell".

Even in relative anonymity and decades afterward, the threat still has a voodoo-like power.
I can count on 1 or 2 fingers the people I absolutely, positively trust.

If that's not killing a kid, it's the next best thing.

76 posted on 09/26/2005 10:29:57 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander
That is one truly horrifying story.

I was a big kid for a 12 year old; however, there's no way a kid can handle contact with a pervert. I told my older brother about it and he had to explain to me alot of what the pervert was telling me... I only knew at the time that the person on the phone meant to harm me. Knowing what I know now, I'm sure the pervert was a chicken hawk. Those dudes don't care who they harm and scar for life, they only care about going after adolecent boys and their own sick gratification, sociopaths all of them.
77 posted on 09/26/2005 10:30:29 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: rochester_veteran

And they try to convince us they're "just like everybody else and only want their rights"?

Uh huh.
I'm buyin' that.


Not.


Thank God you were not physically harmed.



78 posted on 09/26/2005 10:34:16 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander

You and I could go on for days about this I believe.

But yeah, the kid is destroyed forever. Instead of seeing home, Mom, Dad, family as safety and sanctuary....everything becomes a potential source of pain, anxiety or fear.

It is bizarre. And yeah, I can count on 3 fingers the people in my life I trust, or have ever trusted.


79 posted on 09/26/2005 10:34:40 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: Salamander

Doesn't sound stupid to me, or any other "forever 10 year old" grown person whom has experienced what you have. It's rough some times, but I decided about 13 years ago that I wasn't going to be his victim anymore. That he has no power over me. But it's not always so easy. Sometimes it just haunts me and despite everything I've told myself (I've forgiven my abuser, It's all over, I'm not his victim anymore etc) it still haunts me and I HATE HIM for it. It started for me when I was really little (as far back as I can remember...), and finally ended when I told my mom at 14. Of course no charges were ever brought. But he has little or no relationship with my daughter. And it will stay that way.


80 posted on 09/26/2005 10:37:43 AM PDT by P-Chan Penny (Eat a toad for breakfast.... it's the worst thing that will happen to you all day!)
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