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Lawlessness in New Orleans is a national disgrace
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/2/05 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 09/03/2005 6:54:45 AM PDT by RKV

The disaster of New Orleans, unspooling minute by minute on our TV screens, has been wrenching - in one particular way even more gut-twisting than Sept. 11.

You could watch the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks and feel horrified at the sheer violence and destruction of it; angry at the murderous evil of Mohammed Atta and the other hijackers; heartbroken at the awful suffering and loss. But there wasn't any cause to feel embarrassed and ashamed.

Those are the emotions evoked by sights of the massive lawlessness in New Orleans in the days after the storm and the inability of anyone to stop it. Katrina unleashed a catastrophe of nearly unimaginable proportions, confronting government at all levels with enormous challenges. That the reaction to the hurricane initially seemed uneven and slow is understandable, but even allowing for the hellish circumstances, the breakdown in civil order has been stunning.

Without order, which government exists to protect, nothing else is possible. Not even rescue operations, as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has learned. On Wednesday night, as the city descended into an urban dystopia straight out of the 1981 film ''Escape From New York,'' he had to command nearly all the city's 1,500 police officers to focus on re-establishing law and order instead of saving endangered people.

Everyone understands desperate people getting food or water by any means possible. Plundering tennis shoes and TVs, as a small thuggish minority has done, is another matter. And the problem is that there is no such thing as a little chaos. Once a climate of disorder is set, it has a logic of its own. First, it was stealing tennis shoes, then it was taking potshots at a helicopter arriving to evacuate people from the Superdome. Goons stole a bus from a nursing home and threatened its residents. Rescue workers report that rocks and bottles have been thrown at them and shots fired their way.

Unfortunately, the urban revival that had swept much of the country mostly left New Orleans behind. The atmosphere of lawfulness that stood New York City in good stead after 9/11 and during the 2003 blackout - although those were much less far-reaching disasters was never established. The city never had a Rudy Giuliani. Even as murder rates continued to decline in other cities in recent years, the murder rate in New Orleans crept up. The police were plagued by allegations of corruption and brutality, and, according to The Associated Press, only had ''3.14 officers per 1,000 residents - less than half the rate in Washington, D.C.''

Law enforcement, of course, is primarily a state and local responsibility, but in the age of the 24-hour news cycle, people look to the federal government and the president to solve any problem on their TV screens. Already the question is being asked if the feds could have jumped in sooner (the National Guard is now arriving in force). If President Bush pays a political price for the images of lawlessness that have played out in New Orleans, it will be the second time looting has hurt his cause.

The other, of course, was in Baghdad in 2003. It is a matter of consensus now that the rip-the-place-apart looting in the initial days after the fall of Saddam Hussein set the occupation off on the wrong foot. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld explained the looting away at the time as the natural exuberance of a newly liberated people. One wonders: Has anyone in the administration read their Hobbes? Or does he not make the ''compassionate conservative'' reading list?

New Orleans has provided a corrosive lesson about government. At all levels, government is overbearing and nagging, paying for people's prescription drugs and telling us whether we can smoke in restaurants or not. But when it comes to its most elemental task of maintaining order and protecting property, it might not be up to the task when it is needed most.

Keep that in mind and buy a gun, just in case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bloat; fmcdh; katrina; lawlessness; lowry; neworleans; rkba; urbanbarbarians
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To: sierrahome

"There is plenty of depravity to go around, coast to coast and border to border...including your area too. "

Nope. NOT where we live. We live in a conservative area. We pay more to not live in it.

I'm sorry to hear you have depravity where you live.

BTW, how do you tolerate Mardi Gras in YOUR area?




101 posted on 09/03/2005 8:59:55 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

They shot and killed a man at the dome this a.m. because he was raping a 13 year old girl. I am telling you some of these people have no self control or even live by any rules of law. N.O. needs lots of prayer!


102 posted on 09/03/2005 9:01:21 AM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: RKV
Seeing the title of this thread and remembering this thread, I think the left has gone totally KOO KOO...

Radio host (Air America radio talk radio host Randi Rhodes) urges poor to loot

103 posted on 09/03/2005 9:07:10 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical dim strategy - when tragedy hits, blame a Republican.)
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To: 2harddrive

Forget it, Man.


104 posted on 09/03/2005 9:09:31 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: RKV

Fox just said a man who raped a child was killed by the crowds. Sometimes vigilantism = justice.


105 posted on 09/03/2005 9:10:36 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Huck

A generator with an underground storage tank can run a house for days.

Important detail: Make darned sure the gas pump is powered by the generator and not by outside electricity!


106 posted on 09/03/2005 9:12:23 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: 2harddrive

Storm hit on Monday.

Tuesday before world knew the extent of the damage.

Authorities started feeding on Thursday.

So this guy alleges this on Friday and we're supposed to believe people couldn't go 2-3 days without resorting to cannibalism? (Especially in light of the woman who hadn't eaten in 2 days and was given an MRE - she threw it away - it wasn't good enough. Good enough for our brave military who protect her butt but not good enough for her.)

And you wouldn't be posting your question on multiple threads to spread the rumor you?


107 posted on 09/03/2005 9:15:27 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: RKV

Didn't the NO mayor empty the jails? Does cause and effect mean anything down there?


108 posted on 09/03/2005 9:16:59 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: SunnySide
If this were typical of our nation, it would be a disgrace. New York made us proud. The victims of Andrew and Hugo made us proud. Those who responded to the CA quake made us proud. There are heroes in New Orleans, the rest of LA, MS, & AL but they are overshadowed by this aberrant behavior.
109 posted on 09/03/2005 9:17:01 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: RKV
What was left was the indigent poor, the criminals and the government workers. Hardly a recipe for stability and order.

Can't dispute that at all.

110 posted on 09/03/2005 9:17:13 AM PDT by stevem
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To: atomicpossum
There is a culture of lawlessness in the lower classes...

...and a culture of near-total dependency. It is high time we replace the rose as our national flower to something a little more symbolic of the progressive country we have become....


111 posted on 09/03/2005 9:23:03 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I expect the lawlessness will crank up the gun control crowd.

I expect that it will fall on deaf ears, and might even induce some "You gotta be kidding!" comments. Any right-thinking person who does not yet own a gun is probably looking at NO and thinking "There but for the grace of God . . ." and begins thumbing through a gun catalog, or visits Ole Jim's gunshop and starts asking questions.

The Brady Bunch, et al, will be hard put to back up their "The police will protect you" mantra after this one (although they will try). Would that some of the conservative media ask these people if they have reconsidered their positions and watch them self-destruct in defending this suicidal idea.

112 posted on 09/03/2005 9:24:49 AM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: RKV

bttt


113 posted on 09/03/2005 9:26:04 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Wear Red on Fridays to support the troops!!)
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To: nmh
'I'm sorry to hear you have depravity where you live."

Yes we do. Behind closed doors there is alcoholism, betrayal and probably abusive behavior behind some of those doors. We live in a very conservative ares and pay a lot to live here. With that said there are some wonderful people here were I live but we all fall short.
114 posted on 09/03/2005 9:32:52 AM PDT by sierrahome
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To: sierrahome

"were I live but we all fall short'

We also have folks that should hit spell check too! :-)


115 posted on 09/03/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by sierrahome
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To: atomicpossum
There is a culture of lawlessness in the lower classes, but particularly in the black 'community.' I'm glad it's been dragged into the light of day. Now there is a visual image to tie the dependency state to, to tie gangsta rap to, to tie apologist-pimps like Jesse Jackson to. These aren't victims of society, they're victimizers of society. They're only victims of their own lack of ambition, decency, and morals.

Those of us that grew up in the South already knew this...

116 posted on 09/03/2005 9:35:24 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: 2harddrive
"Has anyone heard if the CANNABILISM reported Friday by Randall Robertson, liberal black activist and president of Transafrica, is true?"


Simple rumormongering by an extremist black radical, who IIRC, has renoucnced his US citizenship and now resides in one of the Caribbean Islands, St. Thomas. Again,IIRC.


The man is an idiot!!
117 posted on 09/03/2005 9:43:01 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: rodguy911

"Actually in Fla. there were some problems in South Dade after Andrew. Many of the trouble makers seemingly "disappeared" after the storm, rumors as to what happened to them vary."


Very FAT alligators?


118 posted on 09/03/2005 9:47:04 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: TalBlack
Barring the Republican party doing something totally stupid (which, they have been known to do), I think the Democrat party could very well disappear in three or four more election cycles. They become more irrelevant by the hour.
119 posted on 09/03/2005 9:47:39 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Bernard Marx
We are the mainstream media now. ;)
120 posted on 09/03/2005 9:48:22 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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