Katrina Live Thread, Part XI

They are...Corp of Engineers. They'll fix it.

4,301 posted on 08/31/2005 6:30:52 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)

4,302 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:10 AM PDT by fairtrader

Supposedly evacuating them to buses and taking them to the AstroDome in Houston. (logistically this seems weird...transporting 10,000 or 20,000 people in buses that hold probably 30-50 people each and taking them across country to another Dome.)

And how do they get the people from the Dome to the buses?

How high is the water around the Super Dome?

How far away to you have to drive from the Super Dome before the roads are passable by car/bus?

4,303 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:16 AM PDT by dawn53

From wwltv.com:

LSU cancels classes until Sept. 6, emergency medical operations set up on campus

Yesterday’s influx of Louisianians evacuated because of the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina and the projected demand for the next several days has prompted LSU Chancellor Sean O’Keefe to postpone resumption of classes at the university until Tuesday, Sept. 6. However, university business operations will intensify on Wednesday, Aug. 31. As such, all university faculty, staff and administrators should please return to campus to help meet current, emergent evacuation assistance demands, and to begin preparing for the resumption of class next week. All faculty, staff and administration who can return to Baton Rouge safely and expeditiously are encouraged to do so. A liberal leave policy will be in effect.

LSU has been playing a crucial role in providing emergency medical services to evacuees from hurricane devastated areas. The evacuation efforts on campus are now extensive. The Maddox Fieldhouse at LSU is being utilized as a special needs shelter and the Maravich Assembly Center is a medical triage and staging area. The Bernie Moore Track Stadium is being used as a transport staging area for arriving and departing medical evacuation vehicles. This means that emergency traffic flow into these areas of campus will be heavy. The community is asked to avoid travel on Nicholson Drive if at all possible, as this will serve as a primary route for emergency vehicles heading to campus. In addition, North Stadium Drive will be closed to traffic indefinitely.

These emergency medical services based at LSU will need assistance from nurses, physician's assistants and other medical personnel who can volunteer their time and expertise. Those who can assist in this important effort are asked to call 225-219-0821 so that emergency officials can determine how best to utilize their services.

Other important information about LSU's post-hurricane operations:

* LSU's Paul M. Hebert Law Center will resume classes on Tuesday, Sept. 6.
* The LSU Child Care Center will resume operations on Wednesday, Aug. 31.
* The LSU Agricultural Center will resume operations on Wednesday, Aug. 31
* The LSU Laboratory School will resume classes on Thursday, September 1
* The LSU administration has requested that university faculty be understanding and flexible when dealing with the collection of assigned materials and student absences due to the disruption caused by Hurricane Katrina. For every day university classes are cancelled, academic deadlines will be extended accordingly. The Office of Academic Affairs will assess options to make up for lost class days and will announce a decision soon.

Meanwhile, all University services and facilities are up and running. Full operations are expected to resume on Wednesday, Aug. 31.

* The Pentagon and Highland Dining Halls are open today, Aug. 30, offering continuous service from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Normal food service operations will resume on Wednesday, Aug. 31.
* In order to provide activities for those students who are in town or on campus, the LSU Recreational Center is open today, Aug. 30, until 11 p.m. and regular hours will resume on Wednesday, Aug. 31. The LSU Union common space is also open today and the full Union, including all retail and dining, will resume normal operating hours on Wednesday.
* LSU's emergency hotline number, 1-800-516-6444 or 578-INFO (4636), will be kept up-to-date with information on the resumption of classes. Updates will also be available on radio station KLSU 91.1 FM.

4,304 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:26 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)

I know little about levees but I would think the normal 'water' side has a hard surface, possibly concrete while the 'dry' side is earthen.

RE: 17th street canal.
An engineer on TV said the pics we've been seeing are NOT the 17th street canal. The breach I was referring to is in fact draining St. Bernard Parish but the 17th Street canal breach is allowing water into the city.

They are going to try a new tactic.
Dam the entrance to the canal at the Lake.
I was laying in bed last night thinking that was the plan.
They can get to that point.

Push the barge up against the breach. Attach cables to the near side to hold that side above water ( I think there is a structure, lock, at the entrance) punch holes in the 'off' side and let that side sink.

4,305 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:40 AM PDT by Vinnie

To: beyond the sea

I know, I couldn't resist. It's the guy smiling and looking like he's waving, it just seemed too good not to Foxworthy.

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying, I guess.

}:-)4

4,306 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:47 AM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia, where our motto is "Will Riot For Cheap Laptops")

4,307 posted on 08/31/2005 6:31:51 AM PDT by marshmallow

To: longtermmemmory

4,308 posted on 08/31/2005 6:32:11 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)

To: beyond the sea

I find the fact that they stopped working on these levees for eight hours to be ABSURD.

Well, that is the truth of the matter. Large scale engineering project slike that can't be undertaken in the dark.

You simply do not repair levee breaches in a few hours. They need to focus on getting the people out right now. When the levees are repaired, they must be repaired correctly or they will collapse and flood again.

4,309 posted on 08/31/2005 6:33:22 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)

To the Astrodome? I thought they tore down that place -- guess not. I have been in the Astrodome and the Superdome and wouldn't last in either one.

4,310 posted on 08/31/2005 6:33:42 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)

4,311 posted on 08/31/2005 6:33:47 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)

To: beyond the sea

I find the fact that they stopped working on these levees for eight hours to be ABSURD.

That's because you're sitting comfortable in your house, several thousand miles from the action, and almost completely bereft of any information. Why must you assume, in your ignorance, that the folks in NO are not doing anything productive?

Beyond that, any "serious lights" won't be pointing upward, so it wouldn't help helicopter pilots to see each other.

4,312 posted on 08/31/2005 6:33:53 AM PDT by r9etb

Thanks. I had been looking for that one.

4,313 posted on 08/31/2005 6:34:07 AM PDT by cll

Work on the levees is supposed to be attempted again today. They finally have the people and resources to try, again. (more sandbags, and jersey dividers?) Water from Lake P is down 2ft from yesterday and presumed to have flowed into NO. The lake is still 2ft above normal. per WWL.TV press conference held about 20 minutes ago.

4,314 posted on 08/31/2005 6:34:08 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)

Who are you ?

I am Spartacus.

4,315 posted on 08/31/2005 6:34:43 AM PDT by r9etb

I am not that opposed to getting them in the AstroDome. A stadium is not a terrible place to house people temporarily, if it is fully functioning.

Houston is far enough away that the people there will not be in the way of rescue, recovery, drainage, work crews. They can also easily distribute goods, service medical care there.

One thing that really isn't being mentioned much at this point is that we are just entering September, with 3 months of Hurricane season to go. Another one will very likely hit the gulf, not this powerful of course, but it will just add to the misery. Houston seems to be the best place at the moment. The Astrodome is air conditioned, large enough to accomodate crowds. Many good hearted Texans will start welcoming some of these people temporarily in their homes, and things will be improved quicker on the ground.

I don't think it is realistic to put anybody near New Orleans until after November.

4,316 posted on 08/31/2005 6:35:19 AM PDT by dogbyte12

To: conservative cat

What in the name of God is wrong with these people?

That's not who's name they are acting in...It's the "Lord of the Flies."

4,317 posted on 08/31/2005 6:35:42 AM PDT by madison10

Oh wow. That's the first picture I've seen of any sort of body retrieval since this whole mess broke.

Just a bit of a SWAG here, but I don't think the death toll in New Orleans proper will be nearly as high as the one along the lower coast (Plaquemines and the coast) and in Mississippi in particular. That doesn't mean it will be low, but Mississippi's will be far worse.

}:-)4

4,318 posted on 08/31/2005 6:36:05 AM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia, where our motto is "Will Riot For Cheap Laptops")

To: beyond the sea

They work on Interstate highways during the night with these huge lights.

Viewing the breaks in the levees this morning makes me think there is nothing much they can do now as the levees continue to break in more places.

4,319 posted on 08/31/2005 6:36:07 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)

My mom's family sold the home last year when the last aunts and uncles passed away.

I spent some time there and am just curious about how the ancestral home fared.

New Orleans is a great city, and I'm saying that as a "City Guy".

I've lived in most European capitals, but New Orleans and Bourbon St. spanks them all (if you're and insane party person). I'm not one of those people, but I'm sorry for this disaster.

My heart goes out to them.

4,320 posted on 08/31/2005 6:37:21 AM PDT by benjaminjjones

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