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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
NOAA - NHC ^ | 28 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/28/2005 8:10:23 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Extremely dangerous Hurricane Katrina is bearing down on the North Central Gulf of Mexico and New Orleans metro area. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin conceded that as many as 100,000 inner-city residents didn't have the means to leave and an untold number of tourists were stranded by the closing of the airport. At this hour, people are still filing into the Superdome after security screening for weapons and contraband. National Guard have brought in 360,000 MRE (meals ready to eat) to feed the estimated 30,000 storm refugees in the Superdome.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi

Buoy Data Florida

Images:


New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait

Mobile Long Range Radar Loop

New Orleans/Baton Rouge Radar

Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop

Northwest Florida Long Range Radar

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:


Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics

Live streaming:

Fully-linked version of the live feeds (just in case a few people don't want to first open up WMP to cut-and-paste) -

WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/

1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT

Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast

.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518 WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans via WESH-TV/DT Orlando - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amscray; bugoutnow; getoutadodge; getoutoftown; hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; katrinaandthewaves; livehurricanekatrina; lordprotectnoandla; nawlins; neworleans; tropical; walkingonsunshine; weather
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To: NautiNurse
Yeah. They've got very good coverage!

Do you know if the story claiming Clarence Thomas was 'left behind' in NO was accurate or was the MSM mistaken?

1,101 posted on 08/28/2005 10:16:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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To: Prime Choice
Indications are that the cancer has likely returned.

Prayers up for all the hurricaine folks...and for those of us who love expert commentary...a special shout-out for Prime Choice!!!

PC...ride the wave of these prayers!!!

1,102 posted on 08/28/2005 10:16:39 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Miss Marple

"the incompetence which is obvious"

We recognize the problems, but no one has offered any suggestions which are logisticaly feasible.

Boats up the river? How many boats? How fast can they travel?


1,103 posted on 08/28/2005 10:16:47 PM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: PhiKapMom

I-10 was shut down for construction on the west side this weekend IIRC.


1,104 posted on 08/28/2005 10:16:52 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: oblomov

Yeah, me too re: seeing a car. I don't think Katrina has hit there yet. They said there's another eye wall developing. That's a new one on me. I'm actually going to listen to Art Bell tonight.


1,105 posted on 08/28/2005 10:17:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: U S Army EOD

I know. I was kidding you.


1,106 posted on 08/28/2005 10:17:18 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: NautiNurse

Got a link?


1,107 posted on 08/28/2005 10:17:21 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Miss Marple
It is OBVIOUS to anyone who watched this that the mayor (and the governor) were paralyzed with indecision.

Ask the people in the Carolinas and Florida if they think that mandatory evacuations should be taken lightly. They have been evacuated so many times and had such a hard time getting back that they don't even leave anymore.

Do these people not have TV or radio? Why do they need to mayor to tell them to evacuate? When storms roll through Georgia, I couldn't care less what some politicians have to say. I listen to the weather service and make my own decisions.

This is getting just as bad as the democrats blaming Bush for everything under the sun. I know you feel a need to blame someone, but sometimes bad things just happen to good people.

1,108 posted on 08/28/2005 10:17:44 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Skywarner

They just said on Channel 2 what you are saying -- the radar cannot see that far out to pick up the backside.


1,109 posted on 08/28/2005 10:18:11 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: onyx

What makes the super dome so safe? I wouldn't be in there, no way. They said there are new buildings that weren't there back when they tested it before for wind speeds.


1,110 posted on 08/28/2005 10:18:19 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: jeffers

Ya know, even though this is a very powerful storm, it is also an unusually large one for its power. So am wondering, could we see some weakening right before the eyewall reaches the city simply because the north and west side of a notable amount of the storm will by then be over land, some of which is more than just swampland?


1,111 posted on 08/28/2005 10:18:22 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: CindyDawg
As mentioned, one of the main reasons for not evacuating is not being allowed back in.

That's one reason why I have such a large problem with au-thor-i-tay. The main thing I looked forward to when growing up was not having to answer to a parent ever again.

1,112 posted on 08/28/2005 10:18:23 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: pax_et_bonum
These people who are stuck on the freeways are there because they didn't evacuate THEMSELVES earlier. Maybe the mayor is an incompetent jerk but the people of NO knew the storm was coming and they knew the city is below sea level and didn't leave until the last minute. This happens with every storm evacuation. If you wait till the last minute to leave expect trouble and delays.
1,113 posted on 08/28/2005 10:18:44 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Sidebar Moderator; Admin Moderator

Hey, Admin Moderator? Sidebar M. said that I can wear the Dunce hat and I don't even have to pay the hat check charge. Ooooops, psssssst, sorry, Sidebar Moderator. Guess I have to wear the hat AND sit in that stupid little chair in the corner too, huh? Please don't tell my mom. ;)


1,114 posted on 08/28/2005 10:19:01 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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To: Interesting Times

"Repeating the midnight CDT position...27.9 N... 89.5 W. Movement
toward...north-northwest near 10 mph. Maximum sustained
winds...160 mph. Minimum central pressure... 908 mb."

Thanks. I plugged that in. It indicates a slight northerly turn, but not enough to rule out wobble.

The Forecast Discussion plots are rougher than the Vortex plots. The FC's are in decimal degrees while the Vortex ones are in degrees and minutes, which cuts down on the "smear error" a little bit.

Taking the last two FC plots only the straightline course runs through Kenner, or 9 miles west of the center of downtown New Orleans.


1,115 posted on 08/28/2005 10:19:03 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: onyx

That would be my bottom line also. If news crews want to stay, I'd advise against it, but okay. Civilians other than that should be evacuated.

These civilians get into trouble and then police and fire crews have to expose themselves to danger unnecessarily. That angers me.


1,116 posted on 08/28/2005 10:19:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: CobaltBlue

Hey I lived on my sailboat at Bay St. Louis and Pass Christian for two years. I worked a Mississippi Army Ammo Plant.


1,117 posted on 08/28/2005 10:20:22 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: Howlin

Why do I get the feeling we have some Dems on this thread? Cannot feature anyone else defending the Mayor.


1,118 posted on 08/28/2005 10:20:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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Wave height plot update:

Not good.

1,119 posted on 08/28/2005 10:20:32 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Remember, they hated Him first.)
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To: oblomov

Fox just said it would reach land by sunrise. Guess it's time to turn off my pc.


1,120 posted on 08/28/2005 10:20:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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