Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[maggief]

First or second night.

It's difficult to keep it all straight.

[blub]

A sticky sticks the thread to the top of the forum listing.

Thanks.

[maggief]

I think he said called him a slimeball on FOX and a chicken and sickening on CNN. Later I'll look for a CNN transcript.

[maggief]

PR by papa or the kid has a guilty conscience.

[maggief]

Now we need a translator for the translation:

detenido in caso holloway will owing to deal of place end at his life oranjestad—un of the detenidonan in the caso of natalee holloway, will owing to deal of place end at his life. this according informe cu good morning aruba is dispone of dje. the young will is in one estado emocional much deprimi debi at the presion cu have on dje, y autoridadnan now tin’e at view, for see cu the not take one pace drastico contra his self. do not conoci if owing to busca sosten psicologico for her detenido here, specialmente now cu all will have to stay traslada for kia. good morning aruba will follow the caso here of serca

[maggief]

SM:

What does this say?

Detenido den caso Holloway lo a trata di
pone fin na su bida
ORANJESTAD—Un di e detenidonan den e caso di Natalee Holloway, lo a trata di
*one ofthe persons detained in the NH case have tried

pone fin na su bida. Esaki segun informe cu Bon Dia Aruba ta dispone di dje. E hoben lo
*to put and end to there life. This is based upon informatino that Bon Dia (thsi newspaper) has coem to understand


ta den un estado emocional hopi deprimi debi na e presion cu tin riba dje, y autoridadnan
*that he is in a very depressive state due to the pressure there is onhim

awor tin’e na bista, pa mira cu e no tuma un paso drastico contra su mes.
No ta conoci si a busca sosten psicologico pa e detenido aki, specialmente awor cu tur lo
*now they ahve him under watch so that he doesnt take any drastic measures against himslef.we dotnknow if there was a need for psycological help was given to the detainee especialy now that

mester keda traslada pa KIA.
* he has to be transfered to rpison (KIA)
Bon Dia Aruba lo sigui e caso aki di serca

[Howlin]

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LOL.......does he think we won't find out about it if he offs himself?

[Howlin]

I wondered about that same thing; her mother said he had approached her when she was in the car and she said he was "arrogant."

When has all this happened?

[Swanks]

now they have him under watch so that he doesnt take any drastic measures against himself

Yeah, wouldn't want them to rush into this like a bunch of cowboys.

[Otta B Sleepin]

Do we know if he's in solitary confinement at the prison?

[WestCoastGal]

"MSNBC just reported that their NBC sources in Aruba are saying that Joran is now saying he left her sleeping on the beach"

I guess putting the blame on the security guards or the brothers didn't work, so now she was asleep on the beach. Probably now pointing the finger at the dj on the party boat. Odd that guy went voluntarily to the police and has been in jail ever since.

[Countyline]

This thread is both informative, interesting and wildly speculative and redundant. I read all of thread one ... while I respect the enthusiasm of a few posters for keeping it going, finding related posts, caring and questioning everything; they are also reposting the same reports and excerpts from other threads time after time ... like the posters can't check back for themselves. Makes for tiresome reading the reposting after about the fifth time.

A few seem very sensitive about any comment that doesn't 100% agree with them. They immediately go for the kill. It does not belong to anyone. It is a forum and a discussion site. This is for everyone's opinion that chooses to post their ideas, questions, perspectives, criticisms, etc.

Your post was as accurate as any the other posters have made.

We all get a little tense as we want Natalie to be found and we are helpless ... really.

Let's live and let live. Chill.

[sarasota]

Don't overlook the fact that Joran spent his nights at the casino and C&C, drinking. He may just be in arrest-induced detox, which I've heard is bloody hell.

[cherry]

the more you roam to other forums, the more you realize that FR is the easiest forum to read, post on , search on, and to advance or go back on....

I can't believe sometimes how others put up with the other forums...

like courtv.....impossible to read because you have to keep turning the page, and they somehow haven't figured out that you don't have to repeat the entire quote to reply to someone....

thankyou Mr. Robinson.....

[Howlin]

Wow, I had not heard that; thanks.

[sarasota]

He said, I believe, "arrogant slimebag". When asked why he said that he said, "You know, you can read people."