Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Toespi]

"So unless you've been on this thread from the onset, you wouldn't be qualified to chastise this amazing group of individuals."

Gingersnap, disregard this ridiculous statement. The name of the web site is FREE REPUBLIC. Not FREEREPUBLIC FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FROM THE ONSET

[Howlin]

Oh, I saw some of Rita's interview with Michael Jackson's mother last night!

When you see her, note that she's being filmed through a "Doris Day" cheesecloth filter and she seems to have been told to tone down the raspiness in her voice, so she appeared, at least to me, to be WHISPERING to Kate Jackson.

She's simply dreadful.

[Howlin]

I just don't see the problem here; maybe I am missing something, but why not go to the home of the last person to see the girl alive? Time was of the essence, IMO.

[sarasota]

I'll step in here to answer that one. I found it curious that, all of a sudden Mrs. H took a pass and was a no-show, holding on to prior info and not wanting to "peer into the dark lookinglass" any further. After all her accusations about the Aruban officials being mum, she becomes mum. That's my take on it anyway.

[Howlin]

They went down there about 3:30 a.m. and talked to Joran and one of the brothers on the front steps; that's when the "chest thumping" allegedly took place.

[Howlin]

He was there.

[sarasota]

Hear! Hear!

[af_vet_1981]

Do people really thing that Aruba is unaware of the violence in the US ...

Aruba must really be afraid if they are unable to solve this crime

[TexKat]

For all we know, it was the Aruban police's idea to go to the house.

Thats why I said in post #1989 that the Aruban LE dropped the ball. Never should have happened in that manner.

[Howlin]

Of course, you realize that the time she did go took even Greta completely by surprise, right? Perhaps she really DID have a previous apointment, most likely to meet the incoming flight with friends from Alabama on it.

[xsmommy]

people obviously are free to criticize whomever they see fit, but it boggles my mind how the BEREAVED ones are targeted for their behavior. Sure, i understand that the v d Sloots are beside themselves with worry over their son. no one can take that away from them. but if beth twitty, her husband and ex-husband, were to fly into a public fit of rage, tearing their hear, rending their clothes over the disappearance of their daughter and their frustration and fury at the lack of answers, i would not say a critical word. It is quite possible i would do the same in their position. again, i am not ADVOCATING that behavior, but it would require a total lack of empathy not to understand what would drive them to it.

[hummingbird]

"...the only thing he could read was the Bible he got from a very nice police guy. He got a Bible to read.

Man, I just hate being snotty but if Joran had been spending more time with "the only thing he could read was the Bible," instead of casinos, drinking under age, sneaking out of parents' house and who knows what else, maybe he wouldn't be in the situation he is in now.

[vigilante2]

your being ridiculous

[Toespi]

I don't see anything wrong with it either. But could it not have waited until 7:00 in the morning, without spotlights shining in the windows and cars pulling up with police and people shouting for him to send his son out. This was NOT planned to be an amicable fact finding meeting, it was a threatening and menacing event.

[Howlin]

Well, we both know if they didn't say ONE WORD, somebody would be right along to say that they just weren't acting BEREAVED enough. Go figure.

And you know the old expression, when in Rome...

[vigilante2]

ludicrous

[LYSandra]

The kid reminds me of a Scott Peterson personality. Right down to the mom saying he was doing yoga! Remember Scott was dong yoga! The dad creeps me out completely. I stilldon't understand how a 17 yr old is holding out so long. You would think a 17 yr old would fold quickly! Thoughts?

[LYSandra]

The kid reminds me of a Scott Peterson personality. Right down to the mom saying he was doing yoga! Remember Scott was dong yoga! The dad creeps me out completely. I stilldon't understand how a 17 yr old is holding out so long. You would think a 17 yr old would fold quickly! Thoughts?

[TexKat]

They went down there about 3:30 a.m. and talked to Joran and one of the brothers on the front steps; that's when the "chest thumping" allegedly took place.

Nope, Joran was not at the casino. They returned to the VDS home and that is where the Holloway Twitty, friends and LE found Joran and Deepak.

It was on the second trip to the VDS's home not the casino.

[Howlin]

But could it not have waited until 7:00 in the morning...

And you know this HOW?

How do you know that she wasn't still alive at that very minute and every second counted?

Would you have preferred that Natalee's family just sit in Alabama, watch Fox News, and await the call from Aruban officials to come get their daughter's body?