Posted on 06/19/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by stlnative
FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
Has it been confirmed that Joran was actually at the casino when Natalee's family arrived at the house? Maybe he was right at home in his apartment, and his father wanted to give him some time to get his act together (literally).
It's always seemed odd to me that he could get home from the casino so quickly and without the Twitty group passing him on the way.
Yes, I am aware but thanks anyway. That wasn't the point I made. I was attempting to show that there are plenty of discrepancies across the board, by everyone, so it makes it difficult to place too much credibility on speculation. We have BEEN at the recovery stage for over two weeks.
I will let brigette you and others be the judge of that sarasota. I am just posting on the threads and trying to keep up.
Look I very rarely get involved in these threads... just because of all the high emotions.
It drives me INSANE when people pile on the victim. BUT in the case of RIP I read back over all his/her posts.. up until post 1529 from what I could tell he/she was all about finding Natalee... and in total agreement with the majority of the thread. The one post that was really only questioning a situation there was MAJOR outcry... and it escalated from there.
I am sure he would have. But informing LE and letting them do their job would be the right and smart thing to do. Monday morning quarterbacking here!!
Well, as far as I can see, we've managed to avoid that so far; I hope it can stay that way!
He was at the casino, because they all went down there to talk to him.
Are you up for Extended Thread part 3?
Humor me: what possible difference does it make that Mrs. Holloway didn't go?
Nah, Joran's father should have immediately turned his son over to Jug and friends and turned the porch light off. In fact, he should have loaned them some rope and since he didn't do that, the father is involved in the disappearance of Natalee. Thank God the mother was off island, she would also be considered a suspect.
Rita, on the other hand, was pretty good on Fox, but descended into banality and patronizing on MSNBC.
yes but can you understand, in an environment where you have very little reason to think LE is up to the task, and this is a beloved family member you are looking for, you might not do what is for the best. i am not ADVOCATING vigilantism, but i sure as heck can understand what would give rise to those feelings here and i will NOT judge these people for it.
Forgive me if I seem uncaring or a bit crass, but hasn't this story grown waaaaay beyond the proportion of the event? It's a tragic situation for sure, and awful sad for the family and friends of this poor girl, but is a missing person / presumed dead story so news worthy that it justifies moving whole news teams to a tiny little island outside the country so that live coverage can be broadcast at a moments notice around the world? Is it worth 45 minutes of news time on Fox's Greta Van Susteren? And night after night latest news update?
How many missing and presumed dead stories do not get covered beyond local newspapers? What is different about this story? Please tell me
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Or maybe we the news-watchers have just changed, and the news media is just feeding the "Reality-TV Generation" the need for stories on beautiful or famous people in bad situations. Case-in- point; Princess Di, Elizabeth Smart, Robert Blake, Michael Jackson, Wynona Ryder, The Peterson Trial.
What time does the casino close or do they ever?
Howlin and he wasn't there either. Could it be that he was in his home hiding because the father did not want his son dismembered by the Alabama posse? Gee, I would have called the police oh but that's right Jug took them with him. This reeks, regardless of innocence or guilt.
If you notice, there has been a great deal of research that is going into trying to get to the truth in what we are trying desperately to piece together. We've been doing this sort of investigating for years on FR.. So unless you've been on this thread from the onset, you wouldn't be qualified to chastise this amazing group of individuals.
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For all we know, it was the Aruban police's idea to go to the house.
They seem to have a pretty tight grip on everything else; I imagine they could have stopped the Alabama group if they wanted to.
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