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More Hollywood Remakes Cast Minorities
Yahoo! News ^ | June 8, 2005 | ERIN TEXEIRA

Posted on 06/08/2005 11:10:24 PM PDT by El Conservador

NEW YORK - When Jackie Gleason was growing up in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn in the 1930s, many of his neighbors resembled his family, Irish and working-class. Today, the residents remain mostly working-class, but almost all are black.

Perhaps, then, it makes sense that a film remake of Gleason's classic TV comedy "The Honeymooners" would feature a mostly black cast, with Cedric the Entertainer as the new face of loudmouthed Ralph Kramden.

The film, which opens in theaters Friday, reflects a growing trend in recent years called cross-casting — casting minorities in roles originally played by whites. Halle Berry starred in "Catwoman," Lucy Liu was one of "Charlie's Angels" and Ashton Kutcher and Bernie Mac recently starred in "Guess Who," which inverted the racial casting in the 1967 classic "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner."

Colorblind casting in remakes, some say, is a hopeful sign that Hollywood executives are increasingly understanding that talented actors of color can fill prominent roles — and drive ticket sales.

"It's the last three or four years that we've seen this, and I think it's financially advantageous and culturally responsible," said Delia Salvi, a film professor at UCLA. "It's a recognition of the fact that whatever went on in `The Honeymooners' went on in every family, whether blue-collar or white or black."

Cross-casting along gender and racial lines has been used in the theater for years, starting with productions of Shakespeare. On Broadway now, Denzel Washington is playing Brutus in "Julius Caesar" and James Earl Jones and Leslie Uggams headline "On Golden Pond." In 2001, a film version of "Hamlet" set in the post-Civil War South included a black Polonius played by Roscoe Lee Browne.

Such casting does not always go smoothly. In Glenelg, Md., last month, a high school production of "Huckleberry Finn" had a black Huck Finn and a white Jim, but the copyright holder objected to the cross-casting and the performances were edited out of a C-SPAN talent show. And when Ving Rhames took the title role in the new "Kojak" on USA Network, critics brought him to tears during a promotional event in Los Angeles when they pummeled him with questions about how he could be believable in a role originally played by a Greek-American.

Still, many say cross-casting is positive.

"I do think this is what America would call progress from the civil rights movement," said Jesse A. Rhines, a screenwriter and author of "Black Film/White Money." "`The Honeymooners' is a staple of American television tradition. Does the audience accept (the new casting)? Maybe it doesn't make a difference anymore. I have a feeling it doesn't."

The trend, he said, compares to the casting of minorities in commercials, a common practice fueled by market research showing that whites are no less likely to buy a product if a person of color pitches it — but that minorities are much more likely to use it.

Hollywood, he said, has also found a way to attract new customers, particularly young adults who are frequent filmgoers and a sought-after demographic.

But when it comes to ethnic diversity, most studio heads "think like their grandfathers," said Gabrielle Union, who plays Alice Kramden in "The Honeymooners."

"The younger demographic wants diversity," she said. "Give them what they want."

Critics say it's no coincidence that much of the colorblind casting in Hollywood comes in remakes, which are less risky and typically less imaginative.

"It shows they couldn't come up with something fresh," said Vic Skolnick, co-director of the Cinema Arts Centre in Huntington, N.Y., which highlights international and independent films. Though he had not yet seen the new "The Honeymooners," and he acknowledged there are relatively few roles for minority actors overall, he said actors of color need to be cast in more thoughtful films that tell culturally specific stories.

"There's enough real stuff in African American life that it shouldn't have to be some sort of copycat kind of thing," he said.

Though not all films with largely black casts are lucrative, there have been notable successes.

Going back to the '80s, Eddie Murphy has scored with such box-office hits as "Coming to America" and "The Nutty Professor."

Just this year, Ice Cube — whose "Friday" and "Barbershop" franchises have done quite well — led the cast of "Are We There Yet?" which took in nearly $83 million domestically, and "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" stunned many when it was the nation's top movie the weekend it opened. It eventually made $50 million.

A survey by the Motion Picture Association of America showed that 42 percent of blacks, 45 percent of Latinos and 33 percent of whites were frequent moviegoers (seeing more than one movie a month).

David Friendly, who produced "Big Momma's House" in 2000 and is also the producer for "The Honeymooners," stressed that his new production was not conceived as a black film.

The screenplay was completed before any roles had been cast, he said. He and other producers thought perhaps James Gandolfini or John Goodman might play Ralph Kramden, but when Cedric's name came up in a meeting, Friendly said: "That was like a eureka moment. They said, `THAT'S a fresh idea.'

"It wasn't calculated enough to say, `Let's do "The Honeymooners" black and let's write it for African Americans.' If that had been the case, the dialogue would have been blacker."

As it happened, Cedric signed on and minimally tweaked the dialogue and other nuances to make the film culturally appropriate. But the plot centers wholly on Kramden and his upstairs buddy, Ed Norton, played by Mike Epps, as they scramble for the cash to move from their cramped apartments into a nearby home.

There are generous nods to the TV show. The film is set in working-class Brooklyn and Kramden drives a bus, plays pool and often loses money in a string of simpleminded get-rich-quick schemes.

And, in a less menacing version of Gleason's perennial threats to his wife, Cedric tells Union with a flirty smirk, "I'll take you to the moon, Alice."

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On The Net:

The Honeymooners movie: www.honeymoonersmovie.com

On Golden Pond: www.goldenpondonbroadway.com

Julius Caesar: www.caesaronbroadway.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balkanization; creativebankruptcy; culturewar; discrimination; hollywood; racehustling; remakes
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To: I still care

I have no problem at all with remakes like the Honeymooners. Like 99% of the dreck Hollywood puts out I will not see it until it is on cable anyway.


21 posted on 06/09/2005 12:48:37 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: I still care
There's got to be lots of mafia types getting pissed at Hollywood's ideas on making movies.

How in the he world these guys stay in business is anyones idea.

I guess it is idiot business to cross casts colored actors because they supposedly work cheaper.
22 posted on 06/09/2005 12:54:57 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: El Conservador

I'll be anxiously waiting for the remake of an all white cast of "Amos & Andy."

No wait, can't do that. All White would be racist.

Maybe an All White version of "No Cabin In The Sky?" Nope, it was pro religious beliefs and again, All White would be racist.

Oh well, Hollyweird doesn't get money from me anyways, not even when their garbage comes out on cable.


23 posted on 06/09/2005 1:16:47 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: pepperhead
I wish Hollywood stop it with all the remakes already.

Remakes suggest bankruptcy of original thought. You don't need new ideas. You need only modernizing of a script. Usually the copy isn't close to being as refined as the stolen one.

I approve to a degree of cultural blindness in casting as long as it doesn't mock some true event. Yet some artistic ventures are such that they defy any effort to remake them regardless of casting. I find it difficult to believe there are actors that can pull off this effort of Jackie Gleason and Art Carney...of any color. It's about as silly as a twenty first century sculptor taking a run at the Pieta.

24 posted on 06/09/2005 1:23:30 AM PDT by stevem
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To: El Conservador
There will only be one...
Ralph Kramden
Archie Bunker
Al Bundy
Fred Sanford
Alf...ok, so he was an Alien Life Form, he was still a one-off

No matter what the Hollywoods would have us try to believe.

25 posted on 06/09/2005 2:22:39 AM PDT by Khurkris (I need a new tagline..let me work on it a while.)
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To: Nipplemancer; Miss Marple
It's not a remake because both films are based off of a Roald Dahl book. The Depp/Burton version is much more closer to the original work, which like much of Roald Dahl's books, is pretty creepy.

Roald Dahl certainly had a "flair" for the unusual. Here is a quick biography and some info. Yeah, what a mind! "Vermicious Knids" and all that. I do kind of think that the johnny Depp will more adequately portray the character of Willa Wonka moreso than the talented Gene Wilder. Gene was excellent in his role but in today's times, Deppp will be able to provide further depth into some of the darkness that Dahl could subtly infuse into his characters and stories.

"His books are mostly fantasy, and full of imagination. They are always a little cruel, but never without humour - a thrilling mixture of the grotesque and comic. A frequent motif is, that people are not, what they appear to be. Mary Maloney in "Lamb to the Slaughter", for example, is not a friendly widow, but a clever murderess. In his stories, the background is perfectly worked out: details are very close to reality.

Roald Dahl didn't only write books for grown-ups, but also for children, such as "James and the Giant Peach", "Fantastic Mr. Fox" and "The Gremlins". About his children's stories he said once: "I make my points by exaggerating wildly. That's the only way to get through to children." Roald Dahl is perhaps the most popular and best-selling children's book author. However, these stories are so sarcastic and humorous, that also adults appreciate reading them. "

26 posted on 06/09/2005 2:33:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: DakotaRed

If they can get Edgar Winter to play Uncle Remus, maybe we'll finally be allowed to see the wonderful "Song of the South" again.


:::rolls eyes:::


27 posted on 06/09/2005 2:34:30 AM PDT by Salamander
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To: darbymcgill

SAG union policies encourage these practices. The lefties there strong arm some of the producers. They're all for diversity, except diversity of thought.


28 posted on 06/09/2005 2:38:24 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: dead

It's like the "black Kojak". If they are trying to make all these black remakes of great shows into movies, trying to appeal to one segment of our society, why don't they call all of TV "BET"? That is the way TV is going.


29 posted on 06/09/2005 2:49:49 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: pepperhead

Could it be they are out of ideas???


30 posted on 06/09/2005 2:52:19 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: I still care

I'll always give Cedric a bit of leeway for his performance in "Barbershop". When he went on his Jesse Jackson rant, everybody in the theater, black and white, started cheering.


31 posted on 06/09/2005 2:57:26 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (I don't hate anybody, except the French....)
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To: pepperhead

"...stop it with all the remakes"

They can't help it. Very few original thoughts are among the hollywood "me" crowd.


32 posted on 06/09/2005 3:06:53 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: El Conservador
Let's see: "Catwoman" was almost a career-ender for the excellent looking Ms. Berry; "Honeymooners"---well, too early to tell, but I'm predicting a bomb because the original was about a blue-collar hen-pecked mailman who threatened domestic abuse (hardly PC today); and "Charlie's Angles??" I'm stunned that ever made it to CA II, despite the excellent-looking Ms. Moore.

The problem is that race is NOT an issue and that in most cases these are simply bad movies, black, white, or green. While I loved Star Wars, I thought Samuel L. Jackson's "Mace Windu" character was pretty weak. I kept waiting for him to say something like, "Jedi this, mofo!"

33 posted on 06/09/2005 4:51:14 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: DakotaRed
I'll be anxiously waiting for the remake of an all white cast of "Amos & Andy."

Yeah - with the entire cast in 'whiteface'. LOL. Or how about a lighthearted treatment of "Roots" with Bill Murray as Kunta Kinte.

34 posted on 06/09/2005 5:46:36 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: Clemenza

I guess you didn't read the article.

Are you saying only blacks live in the ghetto? Did you see that in a movie? Or is that your definition of ghetto? "a place where only black people live".


35 posted on 06/09/2005 6:27:03 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: pepperhead

Pepperhead! Remade movies are better when we add plenty of sex (hetero, homo, and metro). /s off


36 posted on 06/10/2005 1:51:12 AM PDT by andie74 (If you eat pasta and antipasta, do they cancel each other out?)
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To: andie74

My brother showed me a Spiderman comic book made "with collaberation of" a group for the advancement of minorities in engineering. In the whole book 5 of about 100 people were white. And except for the obvious,Spiderman, they were all evil. And it spent half the book talking about how it's not impossible for minorities to get engineering.


37 posted on 06/20/2005 6:14:07 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.))
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To: I still care

nobody else could envision anybody but jackie gleason in this role of ralph kramden The movie version of honeymooners bombed and badly....


38 posted on 09/08/2005 4:47:11 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: El Conservador
Will Smith as James West

P U

39 posted on 09/08/2005 4:52:16 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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