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Bill Bennett said this morning on his radio show that, in his opinion, Reid should be censured for doing this.
1 posted on 05/13/2005 4:59:19 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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2 posted on 05/13/2005 4:59:46 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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Ping.


3 posted on 05/13/2005 5:00:04 AM PDT by lysie
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I think they've got to censure him.


4 posted on 05/13/2005 5:01:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Who does Reid think he is?! Hilliary!?


6 posted on 05/13/2005 5:02:06 AM PDT by mewzilla
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The mind boggles..


7 posted on 05/13/2005 5:02:34 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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I can't wait to watch the fall out from this little stunt.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 5:02:53 AM PDT by Peach
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The quote about the Latter Day Saints was uncalled for, though. They should keep his religion out of this.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 5:03:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Reid is one to talk. I've seen his confidential FBI file. Now, I'm not going to say that he had a sexual relationship with a man who was a convicted spy for China. No. It would be wrong of me to even hint that Reid did such a thing. Nor would I breathe a word about his 7 visits to rehab centers for alcoholism. That information is private, and you won't hear me say a word about it ...


11 posted on 05/13/2005 5:04:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Republicans on Capitol Hill weren't saying much publicly, but several denounced the action privately as an "underhanded smear" or worse.

We have A-Holes for Senators who don't know how to play a hand even when it's a royal straight flush. How they can allow that bas-turd Reid to do this and then stay quite is beyond me. Think Teddy has some stuff in his files?

12 posted on 05/13/2005 5:05:06 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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Reid spokesman Jim Manley referred to an incident in June when the Senate Judiciary Committee met behind closed doors to review Judge Saad's file and inadvertently left a microphone turned on that broadcast part of the secret hearing onto the Internet.

Does anyone know if this actually happened?

14 posted on 05/13/2005 5:06:59 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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Reid needs to have the book( or any book) thrown at him!

:0)

15 posted on 05/13/2005 5:07:44 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Some stories have more spin cycles than my Kenmore washer!)
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"All you need to do is have a member go upstairs and look at his confidential report from the FBI, and I think we would all agree that there is a problem there," Mr. Reid continued.

That was a openly DIRECT threat made by Reid

Not even Hellary was stupid enough to pull a stunt like that

17 posted on 05/13/2005 5:08:42 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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From Captains Quarters:

Just when we thought the smears on judicial nominees from the Democrats could not get any worse, Harry Reid moved from mere bullying to full-blown McCarthyism last night during the Senate debate. In an impromptu remark made during a prepared speech on the floor, he flatly stated that Henry Saad represented a security risk to the United States according to Saad's confidential FBI files:

Minority Leader Harry Reid strayed from his prepared remarks on the Senate floor yesterday and promised to continue opposing one of President Bush's judicial nominees based on "a problem" he said is in the nominee's "confidential report from the FBI."
Those highly confidential reports are filed on all judicial nominees, and severe sanctions apply to anyone who discloses their contents. Less clear is whether a senator could face sanctions for characterizing the content of such files.

"Henry Saad would have been filibustered anyway," Mr. Reid said on the floor yesterday, about the Michigan Appeals Court judge who is nominated to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit.

"All you need to do is have a member go upstairs and look at his confidential report from the FBI, and I think we would all agree that there is a problem there," Mr. Reid continued.


This remark created a firestorm of outrage on the GOP side of aisle, and for good reason. None of the Senators have access to the file except those on the Senate Judiciary Committee or Saad's homestate senators (both Democrats) -- which excludes Harry Reid! Reid should never have been given access to that information, and if he has accessed the file, he would be guilty of a breach of Senate rules. Furthermore, by publicly characterizing the data in Saad's file, he has breached its confidentiality.

Worse than that, he has now floated a non-specific charge of malfeasance against Henry Saad against which Saad cannot defend. Saad himself cannot review his file, which contains anything anyone ever said about him to the FBI during his background check, regardless of whether it was true or not. Even those few Republicans who have defended judicial nominees against Reid's normal smears of "extremism" cannot offer defenses based on the FBI file, because to do so would be to break the same security clearance regulations Reid did in making this statement.

FBI clearance files contain raw data from every interview the agency conducts with people known to the person applying for the clearance. Anything said goes into the file. The FBI does not filter the information, and will usually investigate criminal activity suggested by the interview only if they find anything substantial. What this means, especially in political appointments, is that a fair amount of gossipy but usually exaggerated or false information gets entered into the file and later mentioned in the file's summary.

If the FBI finds anything worth investigating, they do so, and the investigation itself then becomes known to the target and -- unless national security is involved -- is declassified. If the FBI doesn't find a substantiated issue, it drops it when the clearance investigation is complete. Unless the FBI has an ongoing investigation on Saad that they haven't disclosed -- and note that Reid didn't mention one, even though Saad's clearance check was done two years ago -- it means that the FBI was satisfied with the results of the clearance check.

Reid just conducted nothing short of a Joe McCarthy-style character assassination, a tradition that Senate Democrats had come close to recreating on judicial nominations over the past few months anyway. Talking vaguely about information in secret files showing that Saad has some unnamed unfitness for office differs in no way from waving around a sheet of paper and claiming to possess a list of Communist sympathizers in the Army. He has now publicly smeared Saad in a manner that absolutely allows no public defense. No matter what happens, people will always wonder if Saad is hiding something, especially with an Arabic-sounding surname.

Reid may or may not have broken the law by his statement; my guess is he didn't, because I believe him to have lied in his characterization. I believe Harry Reid cowardly chose a way in which to smear Henry Saad that would not allow anyone to defend him. Reid should not just be censured by the Senate as a whole, but stripped of his leadership post and his committee assignments. Let him serve the rest of his term as a member at large, gathering dust on the back benches of the Senate, where he can live with his cowardice and his despicable acts.

UPDATE: Bumping this to the top for the morning. Also, Jeralyn at TalkLeft argues that an inadvertent release of this information makes it public domain. She's incorrect. The status of the FBI file, or any other classified documents, can only be changed by the agency which issues the classification. Henry Saad can't change the status on the files, and in fact, Henry Saad can't even access the file himself, because the sources for the information are named in the file. Jeralyn either knows nothing about classifications or engages in sophistry on this point, and I think it's the former rather than the latter.

Inadvertent release does not mean anything legally or ethically, otherwise no one would ever be disciplined for security breaches, as a moment's thought and common sense would indicate.


18 posted on 05/13/2005 5:08:56 AM PDT by FROGTOWN CONSERVATIVE
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Just what do you expect from the head senator Rat. Compared to calling the POTUS a "looser" when he is overseas representing America this smear is tame.

Reid certainly well represents the party of half-truth, smear, and innuendo.
21 posted on 05/13/2005 5:10:58 AM PDT by TUX (Domino effect)
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A 2004 story from the Washington Times. Posted without comment.
24 posted on 05/13/2005 5:11:40 AM PDT by McChordwatcher (Mostly lurking these days)
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Harry Reid will not be censured. He's a Democrat. And Republicans do not dare apply the rules to a Democrat. Sure the Republicans will whine and cry foul, but they won't do anything about it.


27 posted on 05/13/2005 5:14:30 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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Nice going Reid. Using the power of government to destroy.


28 posted on 05/13/2005 5:16:17 AM PDT by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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Did Harry have direct access to the FBI file, or did he get a copy from the 700+ files that Hillary still has?


29 posted on 05/13/2005 5:16:32 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper ("Virtue begat Prosperity, and the daughter killed the mother". - Cotton Mather, 1720.)
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Bill Bennett said this morning on his radio show that, in his opinion, Reid should be censured for doing this.

He should, but it won't happen. So long as we have a group of gutless Republicans pretending to be in the minority in Washington. Bennett is kidding himself.

51 posted on 05/13/2005 5:45:39 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Don't hate me because I'm a player)
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"All you need to do is have a member go upstairs and look at his confidential report from the FBI, and I think we would all agree that there is a problem there," Mr. Reid continued.

The nominee must attend church on a regular basis.

What else would be so damning in the files to Sc-Reid?

60 posted on 05/13/2005 5:59:44 AM PDT by N. Theknow (What an appropriate name for the times in which we live - RAT-ZINGER!)
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