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Vegans face abuse charges
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12 May, 2005 | Irene Hsiao

Posted on 05/12/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy

A Scottsdale couple have been charged with child abuse after their three children, who police said were put on a type of vegan diet, were found malnourished and severely underweight.

The couple’s 3-year-old daughter weighed 12 pounds when she was taken to Phoenix Children’s Hospital last month after apparently having a seizure, said Scottsdale detective Sam Bailey. All three children remained hospitalized Wednesday, Bailey said.

The parents, Blair Parker, 34, and Kimu Parker, 35, were arrested April 28, and on Wednesday were each being held on $90,000 bail in a Maricopa County jail.

The Parkers were charged by a direct complaint from the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office, according to court records. Bill FitzGerald, spokesman for the office, said the case is expected to go before a grand jury for possible indictment.

Police said that after Blair Parker took his youngest girl to the hospital, a social worker contacted police.

At the couple’s home in the 300 block of North Miller Road, police found the two other emaciated children. The 9-year-old boy weighed 29 pounds and stood at 3 feet 4 inches tall, while the 11-year-old girl was 3 feet 9 inches tall and weighed 36.5 pounds, a police report said.

Police said the Parkers’ house was immaculate, "organized" and "free of clutter." The refrigerator was stocked with fresh vegetables, roots and mixed grains.

Both older children, who were home-schooled, were well-spoken and welleducated for their ages, though officers thought the children looked young for their ages, the report said.

Dr. Janice Piatt, a pediatrician at Phoenix Children’s Hospital, later told police, "I have never seen such stunting before except maybe in Africa. It was beyond severe malnutrition."

Yet Bailey said the couple "weren’t consciously starving their kids."

He noted that the children’s mother also was thin — she weighed 115 pounds and was 5 foot 6 inches tall.

"She was extremely skinny but did not appear malnourished," the report said.

Blair Parker, who is 6 feet 5 inches tall and weighs 200 pounds, told detectives his family was on vegan diets and don’t consume animal or dairy products.

Kimu Parker told police the family mainly eats rice, beans and vegetables. She said the two older children were small for their ages because they didn’t have "animal steroids and other products that the average person consumes."

None of the children have been vaccinated, and the family believes in holistic medicine and were in contact with a doctor in Wisconsin who would explain to them how to treat their children after diagnosing them, the report said.

The couple, who have read extensively on health issues, said the girls’ bodies don’t absorb protein and that the holistic doctor diagnosed the problem, according to the report. They supplemented the 3-year-old’s diet with a product that was supposed to help absorb the protein.

In general, vegan diets should be safe for children as long as they get the proper nutrients, two Valley nutrition specialists said.

"With regard to whether it’s appropriate for a child — there are healthy children who eat vegan all the time," said Terry Hughes of Gentle Strength Cooperative in Tempe.

Karen S. Moses, a registered dietitian at Arizona State University, said it’s possible to raise children on vegan diets successfully.

"People can be very conscientious about how they feed their children and can do a vegan diet without compromising the child’s health. It takes a lot of work. You really have to be conscientious about protein and calcium. You have to be really thinking about nutrients in a way that other people may not."

Contact Irene Hsiao by email, or phone (480)-970-2324


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abuse; animalrights; childabuse; children; diet; econuts; health; hippies; homeschooling; junkscience; kooks; leftists; liberalism; malnurishment; mentaldisorder; petafreaks; pseudoscience; starvation; vegans
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To: cyborg

I have been searching for the perfact diet for years that made sense. The only thing is not eating pasta.( I am Italian )
But moderate use once a week will not do any harm imo


181 posted on 05/12/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by since1868
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To: Frank_Discussion

Hmm, was he a life long vegan?

Or was he someone who started with in the early stages of renal failure. The predialysis diet is extremely low protein with the best (and often only) sources being HBV like eggs. So lots of folks in with renal disease to keep from doing more damage, reduce their meat intake.


182 posted on 05/12/2005 10:30:36 AM PDT by najida (OK, so, ya see, uh huh.....I have this stress problem....maybe it's living without running water.)
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To: ambrose

I haven't eaten meat since 1991, but I will eat fish, particularly salmon, which is healty for your heart. My last heart scan a year and a half ago showed that it has been a good decision.


183 posted on 05/12/2005 10:31:03 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Born Dec. 13, 1948-so he's 56.


184 posted on 05/12/2005 10:31:16 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Just that the fact that they were homeschooled has the potential for giving the media ammo against homeschooling in general, ie a black mark against all homeschoolers as in "SEE! Look what the evil homeschoolers were doing! They must all be monitored by the state to ensure proper nutrition!"

Last year the Akron Beacon-Journal did a several part series on such evils of homeschooling, basing their entire premise on the homeschooled foster kids in NJ who were found severely malnourished in a basement, one of them dead. And of course the series completely neglected to mention that DYFS had been to visit the family dozens and dozens of documented times. Can you say agenda?

No matter though - it was all the fault of homeschooling. If they had only been going to public school, the teachers would have seen they were in trouble. Because as we all know, no public school attendees are EVER the victims of secret abuse and neglect. < /sarcasm >


185 posted on 05/12/2005 10:31:54 AM PDT by agrace (All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen. - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SupplySider
so as not to enslave the bees

That's hilarious! If it weren't for the commercial bee-keepers, many of the fruits and veggies the vegans love to eat wouldn't be available. My peach tree is peachless this year due to a lack of bees...

186 posted on 05/12/2005 10:31:57 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I will say that I used to suffer greatly from reflux and gastrointestinal nasty stuff (IBS and the sort) I always thought it was the meat BUT when I began to cut out things like simple carbs, starchy foods and increased or ate good veggies and quality fats and meats BINGO not one more problem. I have not taken an antacid in 2 years, as well as prescription drugs.
Heck I passed on the book I read to my doc and he is a convert.
He admitted that most general prac. were never really taught nutrition, they just went on the assumption of what they covered in general nutrition classes.

Try the ribs with less sugary stuff in the sauce...
Then again I don't know your system so I'm probably wrong in your case! :)
187 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:01 AM PDT by repubzilla
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To: green iguana; agrace

Yeah, I can see that. But I was wondering what agrace meant.


188 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:02 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Vegans can't be expected to think straight -- they are nuturitionally deprived. Their brains simply are not getting the nutriton they need to think.

That is, they are stupid brainlessbrain-dead.

189 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:12 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Squawk 8888

I went to Olive Garden last weekend and they gave me enough cappelini to feed three people.

My husband accuses me of sounding like the guy in Ghost Busters, who mentioned the cost of everything. Me, I mention things like calories per portion size....


190 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:12 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: ga medic
I think there are different practices based upon why a person chooses to eat vegan. The friends that I mentioned are not PETA types. They eat this way because they see it as healthy. One of the parents is a recovering alcoholic and feels that she needs to "control" everything that enters her body. I have never heard her mention killing or enslaving of animals as a reason for her diet.

That's interesting. I haven't known too many vegans. I've just read literature that empasizes the moral/idealogical angle.

I thinks vegans can be healthy, but have to be very careful about B12. Apparently many people don't absorb it well from a multivitamin pill.

191 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:12 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: cyborg
Some kids like the meat and if that's what their bodies like and they don't have any problems then fine.

As a kid I DESPISED meat and have always had my parents force it down my throat. As an adult, I don't deal with it anymore and now take pleasure in eating. Good riddance, as far as I'm concerned.

192 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:25 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: since1868

I pretty much stopped eating pasta and wheat, potatoes and most root vegetables because too much starch. It was hard to do because both figure very prominently in daily ethnic cooking. Once in a while, I'll eat pasta with olive oil and roasted garlic.


193 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:32 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Frank_Discussion

What was wrong with him?? In some conditions, a fatty diet is beneficial.


194 posted on 05/12/2005 10:33:10 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: ga medic

There are essential fatty acids and other nutrients that just aren't available from non-animal products, and others which are only available as synthetic supplements which 1) many extreme "natural" diet people won't use either, and 2) sort of neutralize any claims that this is natural way for people to eat. The specifics vary somewhat by ethnic background -- certain people of scandinavian and Inuit descent simply cannot synthesize the essential fatty acids found in fish, while other people can (fairly recently, a DHA supplement made from algae, which is where the fish get it from, has been introduced, but it comes in a gelatin capsule, so extremists won't take it). Other groups simply need more or are able to synthesize less of various essentials (ethnic Africans living in non-tropical climates have serious vitamin D issues, for example). Vitamin B12 is an issue for all people, though synthetic supplements can do the trick.


195 posted on 05/12/2005 10:33:40 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cyborg
pasta with olive oil , a little grated cheese and roasted garlic.
my favorite.
196 posted on 05/12/2005 10:34:18 AM PDT by since1868
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To: ambrose

agreed... good digestion and elimination is one of the benefits of the diet.


197 posted on 05/12/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: agrace

The Beacon-Journal? I hate that liberal rag.


198 posted on 05/12/2005 10:34:33 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: green iguana

Actually, the way I read the article, it seems like they are trying to say that these parents appear to be doing good things like home-schooling. They state that the children seem well spoken and well educated, that the house was clean and orderly and that there was a variety of good food available to eat in the house. The malnourishment seemed odd for parents who seemed otherwise very conscientious.


199 posted on 05/12/2005 10:34:52 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: since1868

homemade sauce is the BEST :-)


200 posted on 05/12/2005 10:35:00 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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