President Bush and the Illegal Alien Crisis

NewsMax ^ | 10 May 2005 | Wes Vernon

[Dane]

Dane, you are the one whose thinking is the most "progressive" and you have "liberal" immigration views. Also, you are always talking about Hillary.

We know you can't stop thinking about Hillary

Actually my views aren't liberal. They are more to being sanity to an immigration system that has been out of whack for 40 years.

As for hillary take a looks at warchild's tagline. He is the one lapping up hillary's sour milk.

[A. Pole]

Bump!

[politicalwit]

"Conservatives are living in dreamland"

No, it's REPUBLICANS that are living in dreamland.

[warchild9]

I resent that milk comment. I haven't been wrong about a Presidential election since Reagan #2, and I tell you, if the Witch Queen runs, the Witch Queen wins, as things stand now.

[warchild9]

I stand corrected.

[warchild9]

Oh, and another thing, it's Warchild...9. Only my daddy calls me "Warchild."

[Sam the Sham]

I was wondering when the usual PR shills for the cheap labor lobby would show up. Where are your usual partners in crime ?

[Czar]

I believe you are referring to the other FOQNA loons. The ones that haven't yet been suspended or banned are rummaging around looking for any immigration threads they can infect.

[Adrastus]

re your post#2: Cheese-dickery is rampant in DC. It must be the water. Amen to yours.

Unless the borders are sealed up all other issues become academic.

[puppypusher]

If our borders are not secured and our government does not become more selective in whom they are bringing here Citizenship in the United States will not mean much.

As these illegals keep building in population density they will be outvoting the native population killing us with taxes to support the programs they require.

[Brilliant]

The only thing the GOP has in its favor is that the Dems haven't done anything either, and won't, except maybe lie. Scratch that... Lying is a certainty.

[janetgreen]

As these illegals keep building in population density they will be outvoting the native population killing us with taxes to support the programs they require.

Accurate description of what has already occurred in California.

[Desron13]

What follows are items one and two from Thomas W. Chittum's Civil War II checklist. The checklist is being completed at an ever accelerating rate. Very scary.

Item 1: If the racial tattooing of ethnic classification on ID cards and other documents persists, we’ll know the countdown clock is ticking. Every time you see a blank for your ethnic group on a form, think Civil War II.

Item 2: If Illegal aliens are allowed to vote, even in local elections, it will be another unmistakable signal that American citizenship, and therefore America itself, is finished. If the millions of illegal aliens in America are granted amnesty and get the vote, it will mean open immigration and a giant step toward Civil War II.

[Mears]

"Every time you see a blank for your ethnic group on a form, think Civil War II"

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What does this mean? Not flaming here,I don't understand it.

[Desron13]

The Coming Break Up Of America - Part 1 By Frosty Wooldridge NewsWithViews.com 1-31-5

America faces the most critical juncture in its 229 year history. Indolent Americans sit on their Lazy Boy recliners wielding a remote while their country fractures before their eyes. It's been slow for the past 30 years, but it's quickening in every sector of our country. Have you noticed more and more people speaking different languages at the supermarket? Schools? Movies? At your local bank? Have you noticed radio stations and TV crackling with Spanish or other languages in our English speaking America? Have you seen more people disrespecting the singing of our national anthem? Have you noticed our laws being broken such as red lights being run or people fleeing accident scenes where they were the cause? Have you noticed more trash in your state and national parks, especially in California, Arizona, Texas and Georgia? Have you noticed more flags being flown from other countries instead of Old Glory? Did you know that more Mexican flags fly from houses, cars and establishments in California more than the Stars and Stripes? Have you noticed what has happened to the Golden State? Texas? Arizona? How about Georgia or Miami, Florida? Have you ever been incredulous about hearing something that sounded so preposterous that it "couldn't be true?"

Take a second look. You are watching the "Coming Breakup of America." That's right. Your country. It is moving methodically, perversely, steadily and provocatively across our land. Our Congress and president aid it at the highest levels. It is a nation-destroying experiment being forced on Americans that will prove more disastrous than 9/11.

Recently, I read a book, "Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America" by Thomas W. Chittum. This book paints a grim picture of what is happening to our country. At first, I was incredulous at his supposition. But half way through the book, his research was SO profound and SO evident that it became a page-turner. It provided a sickening look into the methodology and process whereby my own country is being destroyed before my eyes. "History is littered with wars which everybody knew would never happen," said Enoch Powell.

Today, America fights a war 10,000 miles away while its own borders suffer an invasion so vast, so powerful, so insidiously destructive, yet so subtle--even our own citizens can't see it. Not yet, that is.

Full article here: http://www.rense.com/general62/break.htm

[frannie]

I may be wrong but I have a feeling that many illegals are already voting. How in the world could you know in a city, even in a moderately sized city, would you know if they were legal citizens voting? If all ballots were printed in English could at least take care of some.

If you register by motor voter, How would any one know for sure that one is a citizen

Some times it seems as if it's beyond repair.

[janetgreen]

BTTT

[Desron13]

"What does this mean? Not flaming here,I don't understand it.

It means that we are getting further and further away from individual rights and embracing the hideous concept of group rights and privileges.

[Cacique]

This is all about money. The elites at the top want cheap labor. It's either gonna come accross the border or they are going to get it in China. By whatever means, they demand profits and maintenance of their standard of living. There is no dosconnect. The problem with the people on top is that they are under the illusion that they are always going to be in charge. They never learn. Like Marie Antoinnete, the Hapsburgs, the Manchus and the Romanovs before them, they forget to pay attention to what goes on in the world outside of the high walls of their compounds.

We don't have an illegal alien problem, these are not "immigrants". They are colonists and they are not coming here to become Americans. They are here to conquer us just like the Europeans did to the Indians.

[Dat Mon]

From one part of the article..."Some of them would be able to cut their costs with machines that would take up much of the slack. More jobs, in turn, would go into the industries providing the mechanization. Funny thing about the free market: It may not always be neat and orderly, but in the end it pays for itself. In fact, such advances would have been implemented long ago but for the fact that cheap labor from Mexico is available, so why bother?"

Absolutely correct.

Bringing in cheap labor to work in the fields is something we had to do 100 or 200 years ago, before the advent of modern machinery and farming techniques.

This is a new era...a new economy...the age of technology. Trying to build a modern highly competitive economy on the backs of poor, uneducated, culturally segregated labor is a total disaster in the making. It is the equivalent of modern day slavery. Yes China uses cheap labor...they are a totalitarian country...we aren't. Our 'compassionate' social services system..when coupled with the waves of illegal immigration will bankrupt us.

Better we should grow our economy by developing better machines...increased productivity...this is the way we became a superpower. We want wages to go UP for Americans..thats how we measure our standard of living..that is the result of a highly successful economy...not having half the laborforce operating at minimum or below wages....which is where unchecked illegal immigration will eventually take us.

Yes...that type of society is the democrats dream world. They will use it to build their socialist power base...never to be challenged again for power.