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New Evidence Challenges "Out-of-Africa" Hypothesis of Modern Human origins
Red Nova ^ | 04/27/05

Posted on 04/28/2005 7:33:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

New Evidence Challenges "Out-of-Africa" Hypothesis of Modern Human origins

New evidence challenges "Out-of-Africa" hypothesis of modern human origins

WUHAN, April 27 (Xinhua) -- Chinese archaeologists said newly found evidence proves that a valley of Qingjiang River, a tributary on the middle reaches of the Yangtze River, might be one of the regions where Homo sapiens, or modern man, originated.

The finding challenges the "Out-of-Africa" hypothesis of modern human origins, according to which about 100,000 years ago modern humans originated in Africa, migrated to other continents, and replaced populations of archaic humans across the globe.

The finding comes from a large-scale excavation launched in the Qingjiang River Valley in 1980s when construction began on a range of hydropower stations on the Qingjiang River, a fellow researcher with the Hubei Provincial Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology.

Archaeologists discovered three human tooth fossils in one mountain cave in Mazhaping Village, in the Gaoping Township of Jianshi County, western Hubei Province, and found pieces of lithic technology and evidence of fire usage in Minor Cave in Banxia. There were similar findings in Nianyu Mountain and in Zhadong Cave in Banxia, all in Changyang Prefecture of the Qiangjiang River Valley.

A special research panel named the Jianshi Man research team has been set up to analyze the findings.

Zheng Shaohua, a member of the Jianshi man research team from the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, confirmed the tooth fossils belonged to humans dating back between 2.15 and 1.95 million years ago.

The archaeologists also found fossils of bone implements in the cultural strata at the ruins where the human tooth fossils were discovered.

The fossilized bone implements bear traces of human beating, testifying that humans, not apes, lived inside the mountain cave, said Qiu Zhanxiang, another member on the Jianshi Man research team.

The pieces of lithic technology and traces of human fire usage found in Minor Cave in Banxia were said to date back 130,000 years, the ruins of human fire usage in Nianyu Mountain were dated as 120, 000 years or 90,000 years old, while pieces of lithic technology and traces of fire usage found in Zhadong Cave in Banxia, were dated as 27,000 years old, said Professor Zheng.

Before these latest archaeological findings, Chinese archaeologists had found fossils of what is now known as Changyang Man in 1957 under the leadership of renowned Chinese paleoanthropologist Jia Lanpo. Changyang Man represents early Homo sapiens dating back 200,000 years. The latest archaeological findings together with the earlier discovery of Changyang Man all prove there was continuity in Homo sapiens' development in China, said Liu Qingzhu, head of the Archaeology Institute of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. "They are also of great significance to research on Paleolithic era in China and East Asia, and theories regarding multiple origins of mankind," said Liu.

Source: Xinhua News Agency - CEIS



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; china; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; humanorigin; multiregionalism; origins; outofafrica; yangtze
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48-year-old fossils and recent discovery of human dwellings and a few teeth may be evidence of humanoid presence. It does not quite say why he must be homo sapiens, not another humanoid species.

If homo sapiens is the result of cross-breeding among different humanoids originating from different regions of the world, the one from Africa and the one from E. Asia more than 100K years ago could be essentially different subspecies, neither of which are homo sapiens.

1 posted on 04/28/2005 7:33:07 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv; blam; JimSEA; AdmSmith; Dr. Marten

Ping!


2 posted on 04/28/2005 7:33:49 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: blam

You might find this interesting.


3 posted on 04/28/2005 7:39:52 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Bahbah

The only people supporting "out-of-africa" are the pc crowds that try to show africa has even been of any value in the history of the world.

Then as now, it is a pretty useless place.


4 posted on 04/28/2005 7:43:10 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I think you would like the following book:

RACE AND HUMAN EVOLUTION : A FATAL ATTRACTION by Milford Wolpoff, Rachel Caspari

It is a discussion of just what the article you posted seems to indicate and is very readable.

5 posted on 04/28/2005 7:43:18 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sounds like this might challenge the 100,000 year date, not necessarily the hypothesis.


6 posted on 04/28/2005 7:43:58 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Once the red motherland is in proper control of the world, we will be getting a lot of these updates to our previously held silly notions about history, science, politics, and religion as part of our noble re-education. Even Kofi might learn a few new things.


7 posted on 04/28/2005 7:46:22 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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Re #7

Yeah, they would claim Zhonghua(The Shining Middle = China) is the center of the world. It was also where the Garden of Eden was. I also worry about such a political motivation.

8 posted on 04/28/2005 7:59:09 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: epluribus_2
Once the red motherland is in proper control of the world, we will be getting a lot of these updates to our previously held silly notions about history, science, politics, and religion as part of our noble re-education

Bingo!

We have a winner!

Isn't this the same group that released the bird/dinosaur composite fake a few years ago? No matter. Communist or Democrat it's all the same "Believe what I tell you NOW, forget what I said then..." ;)

9 posted on 04/28/2005 8:01:55 AM PDT by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bucky Fuller long held that man originated in Southeast Asia.


10 posted on 04/28/2005 8:02:00 AM PDT by djf
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bttt


11 posted on 04/28/2005 8:02:22 AM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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Yeah, they would claim Zhonghua(The Shining Middle = China) is the center of the world. It was also where the Garden of Eden was. I also worry about such a political motivation.

EXACTLY!!
This archeological find could be a compete lie to make the Chinese people look capable of everything including starting the human race. Which also makes mainland China look more powerful, worthy of respect and admiration

12 posted on 04/28/2005 8:06:41 AM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: kAcknor

Isn't this the same group that released the bird/dinosaur composite fake a few years ago? No matter. Communist or Democrat it's all the same "Believe what I tell you NOW, forget what I said then..." ;)
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They're all full of it. Anyone with an ounce of brains knows that planet Earth is only 6000 years old, right?

RIGHT ??? ;-))


13 posted on 04/28/2005 8:08:15 AM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!! -- Impeach Greer !!!.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Reminds me of the English-language broadcasts from Radio Moscow I used to listen to as a kid on my SW.

They claimed the Russians had invented the automobile, the airplane and the rocket. It was pretty funny, for awhile, anyway.

14 posted on 04/28/2005 8:12:06 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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"Isn't this the same group that released the bird/dinosaur composite fake a few years ago? "

The archeopteryx fake goes back to Germany, 140 years ago. But fakery pays, so the Chinese decided to push one of their own.

15 posted on 04/28/2005 8:18:34 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks TLR. Just adding to the GGG catalog, not pinging the list.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
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16 posted on 04/28/2005 8:21:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Looks like the Chinese have taken a page from the old Soviet Union...


17 posted on 04/28/2005 8:24:59 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why do you think Tienamin Sq. is where it is?


18 posted on 04/28/2005 8:33:59 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: GeekDejure
planet Earth is only 6000 years old, right?

According to these folks the earth is 6,418 (-91 / +155) years old.

If you are going to be sarcastic, be precise. ;)

I publicly hold no views one way or the other because I don't discuss my or anyone else's religion. Figure we all have our own way of looking at it and theirs is just as likely to be wrong as mine.

19 posted on 04/28/2005 8:38:38 AM PDT by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: edcoil

Out of Africa is a fact as far as the major populations are concerned as DNA studies have proven. The question isn't if the current populations of the world came out of Africa, but were they somewhere else before going into Africa.

The current interglacial period began 10,000 years ago. The last ice age was 100,000 years long prior to that. It is possible that an Asian population migrated to Africa during a previous interglacial period, say 200,000 years ago, and that's where we came from. The problem is that there are human decendents' remains in Africa 4 million years old.

Human remains 2 million years old in Asia can mean that prehumans migrated to asia from Africa, but wouldn't change the out of Africa hypothosis.


20 posted on 04/28/2005 8:43:39 AM PDT by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
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