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DNA Shows Celtic Hero Somerled's Viking Roots
Scotsman ^ | 4-26-2005 | Ian Johnson

Posted on 04/26/2005 10:52:12 AM PDT by blam

DNA shows Celtic hero Somerled's Viking roots

IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT

A HISTORIC Celtic hero credited with driving the Vikings out of western Scotland was actually descended from a Norseman, according to research by a leading DNA expert.

According to traditional genealogies, Somerled, who is said to have died in 1164 after ousting the Vikings from Argyll, Kintyre and the Western Isles, was descended from an ancient royal line going back to when the Scots were living in Ireland.

But Bryan Sykes, an Oxford University professor of human genetics who set up a company called Oxford Ancestors to research people’s DNA past, has discovered that Somerled’s Y-chromosome - which is inherited through the male line - is of Norse origin.

Prof Sykes’ studies of three Scottish clans have also led to the conclusion that some 500,000 people alive today are descended from Somerled - a number only bettered by Genghis Khan, who, among historical figures studied to date, has an estimated 16 million living descendants.

The MacDonald, MacDougall and MacAllister clans all claim descent from Somerled and Prof Sykes found that between 25 and 45 per cent of them shared the same Y-chromosome, of a kind normally found in Norway but rare in Scotland and Ireland.

By analysing the rate of mutation in DNA samples from clan members, Prof Sykes was able to show that the Y-chromosome came from a common ancestor who lived roughly 1,000 years ago.

He then tested five chiefs from the clans and discovered they all shared the same chromosome, which convinced him that the common ancestor must be Somerled, Lord of the Isles, in keeping with clan histories.

However, the analysis threw into doubt Somerled’s own origins. Prof Sykes told The Scotsman: "In the traditional genealogy, Somerled is a great Celtic hero who drives the Norse from Scotland, but his Y- chromosome is definitely Norse. The genealogies trace him back to a long line of Irish kings. But that’s not what the Y-chromosome says.

"He is certainly of Norse Viking paternal origin."

It is open to question whether Somerled, who made driving the Vikings from western Scotland his "cause célèbre", would have known the truth.

But Prof Sykes said: "I think it is something you would want to keep quiet."

The fact that clan chiefs still share the same basic Y-chromosome after some 87 generations shows that high-status women in the MacDonald, MacDougall and MacAllister clans were extremely faithful.

However, the large number of people alive today with the same Y-chromosome means the men in the family did not share this virtue to the same extent.

Maggie Macdonald, archivist of the Museum of the Isles on Skye, said Somerled was traditionally viewed as a Celtic hero.

But she added: "Maybe at that time it was more important who it was said you were descended from than who you were actually descended from.

"People may well have known his great-great-grandfather was a Viking.

"But it could have been that his great-great-grandmother had relations with someone who wasn’t her husband - it could be Somerled wouldn’t have known and thought he was this great Celtic hero."


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To: MacDorcha

I've never heard that.

I watched a show on Scotland a couple of weeks ago on on the History Channel.

The narrator gave a background on the word and announced that "Scot" is an Irish word that roughly translates into "Viking" or "Raider".

He'd gone into the etymology in the first place by way of explaining that the Scots were Irishmen who'd settled in what would be known later as Scotland, after mingling with/displacing the native Picts.





41 posted on 04/27/2005 12:56:52 PM PDT by Salamander
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To: Salamander; MacDorcha

from online etymology.com

Scot Look up Scot at Dictionary.com
O.E. Scottas (pl.) "inhabitants of Ireland, Irishmen," from L.L. Scotti (c.400), of uncertain origin, perhaps from Celtic (but answering to no known tribal name; Ir. Scots appears to be a L. borrowing). The name followed the Irish tribe which invaded Scotland after the Romans withdrew from Britain in 423 C.E., and after the time of Alfred the Great the O.E. word described Irish who had settled in the northwest of Britain.

"Scot, with its variants Scotch, Scottish, etc., may have been an Irish term of scorn (Scuit, pronounced shite); its ulterior origin is unknown." [Shipley]


42 posted on 04/27/2005 8:03:09 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: yarddog
First they attacked the Picts and Jutes and Celts. Then they returned a couple of times to attack the new "breed"--which then included the Vikings of the previous attacks. THEN--in 1066--the Viking descendants who'd moved to Normandy arrived on English soil and did some more mixing up.

Those Vikings were prolific.
44 posted on 04/27/2005 8:23:09 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Go to a Scots Highland game and read that out loud.

I dare ya!....LOL!

They were raiders and the Irish version of "vikings".
Their geographic "launching point" from Ireland was Ulster.
To this day, the Ulstermen are called the "Scots-Irish" and were referred to as such when they came to America.
[my personal family history, in fact]

Some "new agers" have tried to tie Scota of Scotland to Egypt and make the Scots descendants of Pharoahs.

History can get pretty weird, depending on who is interpreting it....:)


45 posted on 04/28/2005 12:31:07 AM PDT by Salamander
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
I have it on good authority that we're all descended from some paleo-dude named Bob.
46 posted on 04/28/2005 12:32:59 AM PDT by Salamander
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To: Salamander
Some "new agers" have tried to tie Scota of Scotland to Egypt and make the Scots descendants of Pharoahs.

I doubt the Scots came from Egypt but there are some odd things about the ancient Egyptians. For instance, Ramses the Great, had red, wavy hair.

47 posted on 04/28/2005 5:37:49 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Strap on your tinfoil Tam and have a go at this;


http://www.alastairmcintosh.com/articles/2000_andrew.htm


:)


48 posted on 04/28/2005 4:39:12 PM PDT by Salamander
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To: Salamander; yarddog
I think I can clear up the mystery.

The pyramids are the most famous and obvious artifacts of the Pleiadean culture on Earth. In the compendium of extraterrestrial archetypes, the Pleiadeans are the ones identified as the "Nordic looking" ones (as opposed to the Greys from Zeta Reticuli, or the "Lizard Men" from Draco.)

Since blond and red hair factors are indicative of a Pleiadean blood line, it would be no surprise to find them on a Pharaoh. The Pleiadean archetypes are prominently displayed in Norse mythology in the persons of Odin, Thor Balder, Sif, Freya, Loki, the Giants etc. and are ubiquitous in Northern European cultures.

(Hey!, it's no crazier than that Alastair McIntosh stuff!)

Tinfoil!, Tinfoil! Get Yer Tinfoil Here!

.......are we having fun yet?
49 posted on 04/28/2005 8:50:40 PM PDT by shibumi (Tanya corm en' haba, lle tessa ta ten'oio.)
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To: shibumi

Not sure where we came from, but I know that we invented everything.


50 posted on 04/28/2005 10:14:13 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: Scotsman will be Free

My ancestors arrived in Ireland on May Day via a ship that sailed in the air.....:)


51 posted on 04/29/2005 5:26:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Tuatha de Danaan)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
When we got our first "Encyclopedia Britannica", I would just take volumes and read them. I specifically remember noting how many great inventors, etc. were Scotsmen. Truly amazing considering the population of Scotland was less than 10 million.

On a sadder note, I also was surprised how many Frenchmen were in the encyclopedia.

52 posted on 04/29/2005 7:05:59 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: blam
I long for the "good old days of pillage and plunder" Haggar The Horrible
53 posted on 04/30/2005 6:44:58 PM PDT by -=Wing_0_Walker=- (Don't spit in my eye and charge me for eyewash!)
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Another Clan Donald (McDonald/McDonnell) descendant. Haven’t figured out which sept though.


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