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Jeb Bush - Damned if you do - Damned if you don't
March 30, 2005 | watchdog_writer

Posted on 03/30/2005 6:44:50 PM PST by watchdog_writer

           I have great respect for Ambassador Keyes, and for his acumen, but his article on World Net Daily suggesting that if Governor Bush does not call out the State Police, or I assume, also the National Guard to save Terri’s life, he is derelict in his duty. Ambassador Keys owes us a better argument than the practically off the cuff argument in his article. Ambassador Keyes is not alone in his harsh criticism of Governor Bush, but I am not with them in this.

      When Governor Bush moved the legislature of Florida to pass Terri’s Law it did so in two days. Arguably the Governor had sufficient constitutional power without passing a special bill. Under Article IV, Section (8)(a) of the Constitution of Florida 1968, the Governor has the right to grant pardons, restore civil rights, as well as other executive powers. Florida courts have abstained from becoming involved in this admitted matter of executive grace.  The action taken by Governor Bush pursuant to Terri’s Law simply guaranteed to Terri her constitutional rights. The bill did not change any law that applied to her case; nevertheless, judges declared Terri’s Law unconstitutional.

      Terri’s case has given the pro-life advocates much to be angry about, but it was not Jeb Bush who decided to starve Terri that was Judge Greer. It was not Jeb Bush who stood in front of cameras and told the world, as Terri was being starved to death, that she looked peaceful and contented, that was George Felos, the same attorney that outlawyered Pamela Campbell. Jeb Bush was not the one who gave Ms. Campbell awards for being an outstanding attorney, that was the St. Petersburg Bar Association.  It was not Jeb Bush that refused to give Terri a new trial that was the Federal Bench That the National Guard is not marching in Pinellas County has outraged pro-life advocates more than what they view as judicial tyranny.

The power of the courts to decide whether or not life support should be continued or discontinued does not result from any inherent power of the government to order such a result. The decision is not even one to be made by the surrogate of the incompetent, only the court can decide if the facts and circumstances of the case meet the judicial criteria set forth in prior decisions and statutes. It is now proper therefore for Governor Bush, regardless of his personal beliefs, not to order the feeding tubes to be reconnected after a court of competent jurisdiction has ordered their removal.

The fallacy of Ambassador Keyes’ argument is that he fails to honor the rule of law, and he disregards the fact that while we can question Judge Greer’s decision, his was a court of competent jurisdiction. The parties were given due process according to each and every judge who considered the case, although I believe that in such cases a jury should decide; and, yes the process was flawed, but the order was issued by a court of competent jurisdiction, and in my opinion, it would be executive tyranny for the Governor to mobilize the police power of the state to contravene a lawful order of the court, no matter how much he may disagree with the verdict. 

The authority of the court to order the removal of the feeding tubes from Terri Marie was based upon the law in effect at the time of that decision, but when the State Legislature passed subsequent legislation, the judge’s decision was at that moment in time in conflict with the law.  Courts in such situations often grant injunctions that require compliance by either affirmative action or non-action.  In fact in Terri Marie’s case the court did issue an order to remove the tubes, and then later, in compliance with a duly enacted law, the tubes were reinserted in order to maintain the status quo, and to prevent irreparable harm.

Terri’s Law gave the Governor the clear statutory authority to order the tubes to be reconnected, in doing so Governor Bush did nothing more than any judge in the judicial branch would have the authority to do. He acted responsibly and compassionately by using his executive power to enforce legislation. It is his sworn duty to uphold the constitution of the State of Florida and the Laws of the State duly enacted by the Florida Legislature pursuant to their Constitutional authority.

When Governor Bush ordered the doctors to reconnect Terri to life sustaining nutrients, he did not act arbitrarily, nor did the Legislature grant some special power to the Governor. The Legislature responded, as they should have to a public outcry by changing the law. Courts do this very same thing every day of the year in every State and Federal court.  Courts make law when they decide cases, and when the tide of public opinion changes, their decisions change.

We have seen the courts overturn decisions that violated the civil rights of innocent people powerless to defend themselves against ignorance and prejudice. The collective conscience of a free people is embodied in every branch of government. The legislature that defines it, the courts that explain it, and the executive that enforces it. When government responds to the will of the majority, filtered through moral elected representatives, guided by tradition, and protective of the fundamental rights guaranteed by the State and Federal Constitutions, there is no greater institution. May God comfort Terri Marie and her family, and God bless Governor Bush. He has done all that is within his power.

 


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1 posted on 03/30/2005 6:44:50 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: watchdog_writer

I'm more than open to the argument that Jeb has done everything possible to save Terri.

The fact remains, however, she is being starved to death in the State where he is Governor. Where does the buck stop?


3 posted on 03/30/2005 6:47:42 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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"May God comfort Terri Marie and her family, and God bless Governor Bush. He has done all that is within his power."

By no means. The Legislature has voted, and the governor agrees that the feeding tube should be restored. This represents the wishes of two of the three branches of the government of the state of Florida, yet "wussy Bush" refuses to override the judge, thus allowing one of three "co-equal" branches of government to rule the other two.

Bush should send in the state police, with himself at the head, and tell the local cops to stand down.

5 posted on 03/30/2005 6:48:32 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: William Creel
"The buck stops in the courts in this matter."

Not. Two of the three branches of state government agree on a course of action. That is sufficient to overrule the wishes of the single "judicial" branch. Otherwise, the three branches are not "co-equal". Jeb Bush is a wuss.

6 posted on 03/30/2005 6:50:47 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: watchdog_writer

Thank you. This needed to be said...and you said it well.


7 posted on 03/30/2005 6:51:55 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: watchdog_writer

Thank you -- this was definitely needed!

May God be with Terri and her Family and out of this travesty may the American people finally realize that every life is important including that of the unborn.


8 posted on 03/30/2005 6:52:41 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: William Creel

If the courts are running the show, why waste public money on a Governor and legislature?


9 posted on 03/30/2005 6:52:54 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The buck stops with the voters. They elected Judge Greer, they elected the legislatures that did not provide for a jury trial for Terri, the buck stops with us.


10 posted on 03/30/2005 6:53:54 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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Yes, where does the buck stop, especially now that the courts have proven themselves to be lacking?

If I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't, then I damned sure wanna be damned for doing what is morally right.


12 posted on 03/30/2005 6:54:42 PM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
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To: peyton randolph

I really don't blame Jeb for this, but he did sign the rule including food/hydration withdrawl as life support.

I'm sure he had no idea...

But he cannot intervene now, on a law he signed.

Dubya didn't sign it.

DK

Pipe dreams


13 posted on 03/30/2005 6:55:26 PM PST by Dark Knight
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To: Wonder Warthog
This represents the wishes of two of the three branches of the government of the state of Florida,

Did you read the whole article?

14 posted on 03/30/2005 6:55:41 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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While Jeb, imo, would not be in dereliction of duty by the letter as today of law -- he would must definitely be in dereliction of higher duty of law. That same kind of higher duty as understood and acted upon by our Founders during the the *by-the-then-letter-illegal* Revolution.


15 posted on 03/30/2005 6:56:36 PM PST by bvw
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To: William Creel
The buck stops in the courts in this matter.

Last I checked, the court has no troops to support their murder. Jeb has troops.

16 posted on 03/30/2005 6:56:43 PM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The way the system works is that the legislature passes laws, the Governor executes then until the courts declare them to be unconstitutional.

We need to be looking at how corrupt our court system has become filled with activist judges who impose their will on the majority of us.
17 posted on 03/30/2005 6:58:11 PM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: watchdog_writer

Thank you taking the time to put into words what so many of us are thinking.


18 posted on 03/30/2005 6:58:20 PM PST by Howlin
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To: William Creel
"Any one of the branches can block the other two, with the exception that the legislature can override the executive's veto. It's a system of checks and balances.

Wrong. That was NEVER the intent of the writers of the Constitution. The legislative body was always intended to be the THE final arbiter---NOT the court system. The courts have simply usurped that authority because the legislatures have proven spineless.

"If one branch flat out ignores one of the others, we have a constitutional crisis, and that's not good."

So, having one branch that flat out ignores the wishes of the other two is somehow LESS of a constitutional crisis?? I don't think so.

19 posted on 03/30/2005 6:58:54 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: William Creel

"stops in the courts"? With some two-bit Probate Judge? I can't buy into that. We have murderers in prison all over this country who were sentenced to die long before Terri's initial medical problems back in 1990. They're still living as a result of their "due process" appeals, but this inconvenient "surplus" wife is being executed in a long and gruesome manner. Sorry, it just don't compute.

If we go along treating these rulings of men as though it constitutes the "rule of law", I guess we deserve whatever we get.


20 posted on 03/30/2005 7:00:24 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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